Quote from Samson77:
Think about it this, seriously.........
I am making money trading off of Price Action, Chart Patterns and Support and Resistance.
I learned how to do it from several books ....and good info in .... yahoo group.
Oh and not to mention 2 years of learning....... how to understand how to read the charts properly
There you have it .......
So if I would do all these things and I'm not asking you for a dime why should you trust anyone who wouldn't and is asking you for $$$.
My responses. You have set forth advanced beginner. Advanced beginner is not a viable standard for anything. Prior to your above comment, you posted clearly that you do not know how to do business. For example, outside the financial industry, people do DD on any business they consider. Also, in business contracts are the standard for one fundamental purpose. Both parties state their postions and expectations and considerations.
You have gotten to advanced beginner from a cold start that was totally unreasoned. What you have now is filled with a lot of baggage you had the day you started.
Your advice and direction derived from hind sight and lost time and money (one of which was not recoverable) is a standard for common failure.
Many people here also recognize that you may not be out of the woods all according to their several viewpoints that literally cover the spectrum. You live a modest life. There is a serious transition in the financial industry when you get successful.
Second half. All people who have something to offer when they are in the part of their life that centers on business do deals that fit into their wellconceived and ongoing business plans. You will find that they are sought out and that they always have at hand the info on what the exchange is to be for what they have that you are seeking.
For example, what you seek and have found is definitely not what they have in hand. You missed the boat.
One of the greatest filters in the financial industry is keeping people away that are not capable of having a relationship. The three things you feel that are needed are not what top guns in the financial industry would consider in any way except to use them as a filter to keep unqualified people away from their circle of activity.
One of the most common provisions of agreements, is that an invited (this is how it happens as an antidote to marketing) person is required to not advertise the relationship in any manner. Secondly, top guns do not deal with persons of modest resourses especially non-financial like resourses like intelligence and business skills. The continuing ramp up of capital requires that it be applied in diverse applications as it is extracted from the most leveraged sectors. Top guns insist on agreements as to where and what is going to be going on.
The reason you trust any person who has what you want and is requiring you to pay your dues, is that it is not done in any other way. that person must filterout people who are not capable of relating effectively and who are high risks for carrying out their part of the bargain. Occassionally you will read about people here who want to join the club. You will find that there are lots of requriements to learn.... and be very wealthy.
The greatest single issue on the table is trying to enable someone else where there is a risk that they will screw up and "not get it". No one needs a yo yo on the loose saying blah blah blah...... Right now you have spent a lot of words blaming your lot on the encounters you had as you meandered down the path you set for yourself..
It makes no sense .....
I will say it once more unless they met all 3 conditions do NOT believe a word they tell you or you will be very sorry.