Atlas Shrugged the movie

[antitrust]

Quote from Hello:

All you have done is provide me a bunch more examples of the government stealing from people. And for the most part these are examples of the government stealing from the rich.

no i didn't

Quote from antitrust:
well when capitalists make deals with middle east monarchs who claims divine rights ( which capitalistic nations put in power) to the land and resources. I would consider that stealing. don't you?

when citibank,chase ( capitalists) and others bribed leaders of third world countries to put private debt on the public's book during the 70's i consider that stealing. don't you?

When the railroads (capitalists) got land give aways in the post-civil war era i consider that stealing. don't you

the benefactors of the stealing were private individuals not the government. The government was just the conduit if this didn't exist another conduit would be found. Are you saying that if the Gov didn't exist private wealth would give up stealing? No, It would just be a lot easier with mercenaries instead of going through cost of bribes and legal maneuvers.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

You're being quite obtuse and can do better. The government funneling tax money from the working class to finance the shenanigans of the wealthy is theft.

And how exactly are they doing that? LOL. Come on man, you're better then that. Try again.

 

[Hello]

Quote from Random.Capital:

Well, if you can't do it, you can't do it, and religious debates hold little interest for me.

Cheers, with one last quote from The Master...

"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."

The only thing you have "mastered" is "winning" charlie sheen style. I ask you to give me examples of the rich stealing from the poor in America, and you dont provide me with one example, even after i answered your question.

 

[antitrust]

Quote from Hello:



Now why dont you answer me this question, if it truly is the poor people who are being robbed in America, why are poor people from mexico flocking to this country at record levels? Do they come here to get robbed from the rich?

maybe they would rather be poor than killed.

no one suggested that only the rich steal. The poor steal from the poor and the rich as well. Your taking comments and projecting your image of then and assuming certain things, but no one is immune to this behavior

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Random.Capital:

Well, if you can't do it, you can't do it, and religious debates hold little interest for me.

Cheers, with one last quote from The Master...

"All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind."

RC, you do know that all these bullshit philosophers you worship stole and plagiarized their rhetoric from religious texts? It's kind of funny since you seem to not want to have a religious debate when in fact that is EXACTLY the debate you are making. Anyway, carry on....

 

[antitrust]

Quote from Hello:

The only thing you have "mastered" is "winning" charlie sheen style. I ask you to give me examples of the rich stealing from the poor in America, and you dont provide me with one example, even after i answered your question.

you have been given many examples. you chose to think that private gain is government gain

 

[Hello]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

You're being quite obtuse and can do better. The government funneling tax money from the working class to finance the shenanigans of the wealthy is theft.

Whose money got stolen? Was it the bottom 50% of wage earners who paid zero dollars in taxes last year who got robbed? It was in fact the rich people who got robbed. Again i will reiterate i as a a person who actually paid taxes last year it made me extremely angry that my money got stolen to bail out a bunch of bankers. But lets be honest here, given the fact that the top 1% pay the overwhelming majority of taxes, it sure as hell wasnt the "poor" people who got robbed from the government/bankers.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Hello:

The only thing you have "mastered" is "winning" charlie sheen style. I ask you to give me examples of the rich stealing from the poor in America, and you dont provide me with one example, even after i answered your question.

I'm disappointed as well. I was really really really hoping he could give just one tiny little example of exactly how the rich are stealing from the poor. Then I got excited when Captain Obvious dropped by and thought, maybe he will give an example. But alas, no such examples have been given. What a terrible shame. Anyone who uses the word "master" really can't be taken seriously.

 

[antitrust]

Quote from Hello:

Whose money got stolen? Was it the bottom 50% of wage earners who paid zero dollars in taxes last year who got robbed? It was in fact the rich people who got robbed. Again i will reiterate i as a person who paid a substantial amount in taxes last year it made me extremely angry that my money got stolen to bail out a bunch of bankers. But lets be honest here, given the fact that the top 1% pay the overwhelming majority of taxes, it sure as hell wasnt the "poor" people who got robbed from the government.

as stated before your only recognizing one form of WD there are others

 

[antitrust]

Quote from Hello:

Whose money got stolen? Was it the bottom 50% of wage earners who paid zero dollars in taxes last year who got robbed? It was in fact the rich people who got robbed. Again i will reiterate i as a a person who actually paid taxes last year it made me extremely angry that my money got stolen to bail out a bunch of bankers. But lets be honest here, given the fact that the top 1% pay the overwhelming majority of taxes, it sure as hell wasnt the "poor" people who got robbed from the government/bankers.

But the top benefit overwhelmingly from the private money system. you must look at the aggregate