As we ride the couch, and eat our snacks...

[Lucrum]

Quote from LEAPup:

....The outlook's bleak to say the least.

Shook the dust off my M1A at an indoor range today. I'd forgot how enjoyable shooting that rifle is. I think I'm going to send it to a gunsmith who specializes in national match rifles and have it accurized.

If the shit ever hits the fan no point in wasting ammo on misses.

 

[BSAM]

Quote from LEAPup:

...Once he's disarmed America, there's not a damned thing he can't get away with!...

Looks to me like there's scarcely a damn thing he can't get away with right now.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from Lucrum:

Shook the dust off my M1A at an indoor range today. I'd forgot how enjoyable shooting that rifle is. I think I'm going to send it to a gunsmith who specializes in national match rifles and have it accurized.

If the shit ever hits the fan no point in wasting ammo on misses.

The M1A won't let you down. Hard hitting .30 cal round, very accurate, and reliable as can be. While its being worked on, see what the trigger pull is and how much creep's in it. Your rifle with a slick action, crisp light trigger, great scope, and trigger finger is a knockout combination. I'd take it over an AR any day, and I'm a fan of AR's.

 

[LEAPup]

Btw, did any of you know Onazi attended two gun control events over the weekend? The msm, of course, didn't report on it. This communist son of a bitch is damned determined to make us subjects sooner than we can imagine.

 

[gwb-trading]

ET has had some passionate debate about gun control in several threads - let me ask a question:

Nearly all of the recent mass shootings in the U.S. involved someone who was mentally ill who demonstrated the mental illness before they purchased a gun. Do we need a database of mentally ill people in the U.S. and not allow legal gun sales to anyone on the mentally ill list?

I'm not a big proponent of gun control but something needs to be done. Are there alternative better proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill?

What do people think?

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from gwb-trading:

ET has had some passionate debate about gun control in several threads - let me ask a question:

Nearly all of the recent mass shootings in the U.S. involved someone who was mentally ill who demonstrated the mental illness before they purchased a gun. Do we need a database of mentally ill people in the U.S. and not allow legal gun sales to anyone on the mentally ill list?

I'm not a big proponent of gun control but something needs to be done. Are there alternative better proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill?

What do people think?

Seems like a fair article: http://reason.com/archives/2013/09/22/better-mental-health-care-not-new-gun-la

 

[gwb-trading]

Quote from LEAPup:

Seems like a fair article: http://reason.com/archives/2013/09/22/better-mental-health-care-not-new-gun-la

Good read. I would urge people to check out this article.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from gwb-trading:

Nearly all of the recent mass shootings in the U.S. involved someone who was mentally ill who demonstrated the mental illness before they purchased a gun.

It gets worse, a significant number of school shootings are perpetrated by kids on or withdrawing from ADD drugs.

Do we need a database of mentally ill people in the U.S.

I believe some data bases do exist but liberals and the ACLU seem to have a problem with information sharing and the like. The kind of sharing that would give background checks some teeth.

and not allow legal gun sales to anyone on the mentally ill list?

I'm pro 2nd amendment to the core and I don't think mentally ill should be able to purchase firearms. One problem though, most firearms used in crimes are not purchased at gun stores to begin with. They're stolen or purchased on the black market.

I'm not a big proponent of gun control

Good because it only works for tyrants intent on disarming the citizens in order to make them subjects.

but something needs to be done.

While true that's a dangerous mentality to take towards the problem. We already have 22,000 federal state and local gun laws on the books. Rammed down law abiding citizens throats by lawmakers who thought they just had to "do something". Even if it had no chance of succeeding.

Are there alternative better proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill?

Either be willing to give up the rights and freedoms of millions upon millions of Americans or institutionalize the mentally ill.

We certainly have no problem incarcerating millions of other various offenders even for misdemeanors. Why not the mentally ill?

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from Lucrum:

It gets worse, a significant number of school shootings are perpetrated by kids on or withdrawing from ADD drugs. I believe some data bases do exist but liberals and the ACLU seem to have a problem with information sharing and the like. The kind of sharing that would give background checks some teeth.I'm pro 2nd amendment to the core and I don't think mentally ill should be able to purchase firearms. One problem though, most firearms used in crimes are not purchased at gun stores to begin with. They're stolen or purchased on the black market.

Good because it only works for tyrants intent on disarming the citizens in order to make them subjects. While true that's a dangerous mentality to take towards the problem. We already have 22,000 federal state and local gun laws on the books. Rammed down law abiding citizens throats by lawmakers who thought they just had to "do something". Even if it had no chance of succeeding. Either be willing to give up the rights and freedoms of millions upon millions of Americans or institutionalize the mentally ill.

We certainly have no problem incarcerating millions of other various offenders even for misdemeanors. Why not the mentally ill?

That's got to be the post of the day.

 

[gwb-trading]

Quote from LEAPup:

That's got to be the post of the day.

I will agree he did an excellent job of parsing and responding.