Art Of The Deal

Frederick Foresight said:
The "fact" that there is no link between the hack and the Kremlin. The lack of evidence, as you repeatedly keep pointing out. Evidently, because official copies of possible evidence are not in your hands, they do not exist. That is the standard by which you, as a private citizen, govern yourself.
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Who was the President when the hacking occurred? Why didn't Obama do anything about Russia/Chinese hacking previously? Why hasn't he stopped it?
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
It's difficult to overstate how wrong the media/government analysis has been. While we can all see that the russian fingerprints on the wikileaks disclosures are faint at best, apparently there have been a series of far more serious cyber hacks, eg OPM, Defense Department, even the White House. None drew much in the way of outrage from the administration. Shrugged shoulders was more the response.

Only when the core principles of the democrat party, ie obtaining power so insiders like Podesta can get fabulously rich off rent-seeking, were threatened was there a response. Then the compliant house media obliged with faux outrage over the "interference" but at the same time ignored the sordid details that were disclosed. A few chairs were rearranged to make it appear that people were punished, but the hard left protects its soldiers, unlike republicans.

No doubt the details were deeply embarrassing to the mainstream media, assuming they even have the capacity for embarrassment. After decades of mocking accusations of media bias, their own emails convicted them of virtual coordination with the democrats. The unctuous tone of their emails confirmed how desperately they craved approval from party hacks. We used to joke that the DNC sent out instructions to the media. The actual truth was not very far removed.

Blaming the leaks on the evil russkies also gave the media a convenient rationale for its utter hypocrisy where leaks are concerned. Leaks are essential for democracy when they embarrass a republican president. When the shoe is on the other foot, things get trickier and there are lots of things to weigh in the balance apparently. However, if you can point to he Russians, then we can just skip past all that and shoot the messenger and ignore the message.
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Outstanding post.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
Sure, bro. Go with that.
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I will. To use the wikipedia example, a jury will not convict someone because another individual said they were seen stabbing the victim. Forensic evidence is needed.

So where's the forensic evidence here? You don't have any. Awww...

Hell, we haven't even seen any circumstantial evidence. All we get is hearsay on circumstantial evidence. "Believe us, it's heavily circumstantial". What a laugh riot.

Frederick Foresight said:
You evidently believe Putin and his front-man, so you're hardly unbiased.
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Have said many times I don't believe Putin either. But the burden of proof here lies on you and those calling Putin the one responsible. You can't even prove Assange is his "front man"! There has been no proof of anything. Just statements from the left and the media. Oh yeah, they've shown themselves to be trustworthy.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
It's difficult to overstate how wrong the media/government analysis has been. While we can all see that the russian fingerprints on the wikileaks disclosures are faint at best, apparently there have been a series of far more serious cyber hacks, eg OPM, Defense Department, even the White House. None drew much in the way of outrage from the administration. Shrugged shoulders was more the response.

Only when the core principles of the democrat party, ie obtaining power so insiders like Podesta can get fabulously rich off rent-seeking, were threatened was there a response. Then the compliant house media obliged with faux outrage over the "interference" but at the same time ignored the sordid details that were disclosed. A few chairs were rearranged to make it appear that people were punished, but the hard left protects its soldiers, unlike republicans.

No doubt the details were deeply embarrassing to the mainstream media, assuming they even have the capacity for embarrassment. After decades of mocking accusations of media bias, their own emails convicted them of virtual coordination with the democrats. The unctuous tone of their emails confirmed how desperately they craved approval from party hacks. We used to joke that the DNC sent out instructions to the media. The actual truth was not very far removed.

Blaming the leaks on the evil russkies also gave the media a convenient rationale for its utter hypocrisy where leaks are concerned. Leaks are essential for democracy when they embarrass a republican president. When the shoe is on the other foot, things get trickier and there are lots of things to weigh in the balance apparently. However, if you can point to he Russians, then we can just skip past all that and shoot the messenger and ignore the message.
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oh BS. this attitude is the problem not the solution.

you and others like you are divorced from reality and FACTS.

a malignant cynical bunch the whole lot of you. Hate humanity and hate yourself
 
Frederick Foresight said:
The problem with engaging a moron in an exchange or debate is that he doesn't even know when he's been eviscerated. The whole exercise becomes rather pointless. And so, I will leave you with your participation trophy.
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Stop digging. You are making a fool of yourself.
 
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