Art Of The Deal

[futurecurrents]

So Putin got Trump elected. No question. And the traitor Trumpers cheer it. They should be sent to Siberia.

 

[gwb-trading]

So Putin got Trump elected. No question. And the traitor Trumpers cheer it. They should be sent to Siberia.

Well Siberia has hot chicks like these (DHQ Fraules), and NO Democrats.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I've been all over Siberia (Novosibirsk, Irkuskt, Saratov - though that's a bit more Urals region) and it's a shit hole infrastructure wise. But it does have women like that!

 

[traderob]

Well Siberia has hot chicks like these (DHQ Fraules), and NO Democrats.

I like the one with the small boobs and red top.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I like the one with the small boobs and red top.

In the center or on the right?

 

[Clubber Lang]

I like the one with the small boobs and red top.

I like the one with no STD's or gag reflex

 

[Frederick Foresight]

It's difficult to overstate how wrong the media/government analysis has been. While we can all see that the russian fingerprints on the wikileaks disclosures are faint at best, apparently there have been a series of far more serious cyber hacks, eg OPM, Defense Department, even the White House. None drew much in the way of outrage from the administration. Shrugged shoulders was more the response.

Only when the core principles of the democrat party, ie obtaining power so insiders like Podesta can get fabulously rich off rent-seeking, were threatened was there a response. Then the compliant house media obliged with faux outrage over the "interference"

It's like you're going out of your way trying to be daft. My advice: don't strain, it seems to come naturally for you.

Of course countries spy on one another. It's a reality of life. And I don't think anyone takes it in stride with a shrug of the shoulders. Except maybe the smug, self-satisfied cynics at Fox, Breitbart et al.

But when a foreign power seeks to alter the course of an election, that takes it to a whole different level. The only reason I have to explain this to you, apart from your evident brain trauma, is because it happened at the expense of Democrats. Had Trump and the RNC been targeted, you would be spoiling for war.

 

[Tsing Tao]

But when a foreign power seeks to alter the course of an election, that takes it to a whole different level.

Agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, no proof exists that shows this actually happened.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, no proof exists that shows this actually happened.

You will recall I mentioned "sources and methods" in an earlier post.

According to the talking heads, the intelligence agencies also have to contend with protecting their sources and methods, which could be put at risk with the full disclosure of the information they reportedly have on hand. Now, this may come across as doublespeak to a cynic, and some kind of indicative information will eventually have to be forthcoming.

But until then, I would be inclined to be more receptive to the conclusions drawn by the agencies of my own country than those of the allegedly offending one. Even if I were on the sidelines, I would be uninclined to implicitly side with the foreign nation by being so in-your-face with my own. Bottom line: I would not be so hostile towards my own government and its agencies at a time when the country needs to unite against a potentially malicious outside force allegedly threatening the very fabric of its democracy.

Rather than being defensive, thinking that someone is trying to undermine and delegitimize Trump's victory, you guys really should look at the big picture. Did someone try to alter the course of the election? If so, that's some serious shit. But even if it is proven that this was the intent, there is no way to determine how it may have affected the outcome. So I don't see how Trump's victory is at risk. You guys need to get over yourselves.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Bottom line: I would not be so hostile towards my own government and its agencies at a time when the country needs to unite against a potentially malicious outside force allegedly threatening the very fabric of its democracy.

We are far more at risk from Obama's desire to let in hundreds of thousands of poorly vetted muslims and his open borders policy.