Are US markets like oil,index, and commodity markets rigged

The market is totally rigged...rigged to provide you with a daily profit if you do what the majority is doing!

Who cares if it's Goldman Sachs, or JP Morgan, or hedge funds, or HFT bots, or a secret consortium of AARP grandparents, willing to bid up or offer down "the market" or "XYZ stock" or "oil" or "currencies" or "gold", or some POS on Ebay???

Do you want to participate?

Yes: Then participate!

No: Then don't!
 
broken, you have started two threads in this same forum complaining about markets being rigged. You just started another one entitled: "Short Squeeze or Rally", where you expound the same thesis about manipulation.

Thanks for making the point, but don't you think that this obsession is at the very least counter-productive? Starting two threads makes it compulsive. Manipulation OCD, perhaps?
 
the majority cannot win in zero sum game..nothing is produced here in daytrading game.

majority is short hence th short squeeze you see today...and since september 2010 this short squeeze is bigger than the short squeeze from march 2009-december 2009 more and more more money via QE2

but amount of equities or available ipo and commodity is same hence limited assets increase money supply leads to higher prices..as interest rate for cash is 1%

you do know that futures daytrading is zero sum game.....there is no volume without daytraders.


today could be the final short squeeze. before longs start unloading to take profits as there are no institutional or retail real buyers only short positions covering. buyer exhaustion.



Quote from NoDoji:

The market is totally rigged...rigged to provide you with a daily profit if you do what the majority is doing!

Who cares if it's Goldman Sachs, or JP Morgan, or hedge funds, or HFT bots, or a secret consortium of AARP grandparents, willing to bid up or offer down "the market" or "XYZ stock" or "oil" or "currencies" or "gold", or some POS on Ebay???

Do you want to participate?

Yes: Then participate!

No: Then don't!
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nobody cares or reads these post so who cares.

at least i post..


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broken, you have started two threads in this same forum complaining about markets being rigged. You just started another one entitled: "Short Squeeze or Rally", where you expound the same thesis about manipulation.

Thanks for making the point, but don't you think that this obsession is at the very least counter-productive? Starting two threads makes it compulsive. Manipulation OCD, perhaps?
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Quote from brokenmarkets:

the majority cannot win in zero sum game..nothing is produced here in daytrading game.

majority is short hence th short squeeze you see today...and since september 2010 this short squeeze is bigger than the short squeeze from march 2009-december 2009 more and more more money via QE2

but amount of equities or available ipo and commodity is same hence limited assets increase money supply leads to higher prices..as interest rate for cash is 1%

you do know that futures daytrading is zero sum game.....there is no volume without daytraders.


today could be the final short squeeze. before longs start unloading to take profits as there are no institutional or retail real buyers only short positions covering. buyer exhaustion.
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You are CLUELESS! Do you know what CLUELESS means? It means "having no clue whatsoever to help solve a mystery". The mystery for you is trading.

Day traders do not move the market. There is plenty of volume without day traders. Institutional investors move the market.

And why do you care if price moves because of a short squeeze or because institutional investors want to buy stocks or commodities, or want to hedge positions?

Day traders only care that price moves. Price stagnating is no good. It must move. Why it moves and which direction it moves is irrelevant.

Do you know why price moves up? Because more market participants want to buy something than want to sell it.

Does it matter why more of them want to buy? No.

Either they're afraid it's going higher against them (short squeeze) or they're afraid it's going higher without them. It's just the opposite when price moves down.

This is a site for professional traders or those that would like to become professional traders. What is the point of your posts here?
 
institutions also daytrade fool.
90% volume is institutional daytrading volume automated trading.

what do you mean by institutions..institutions ahve an entire department for daytrading or short term trading.

it's just on big casino game...and they play it like a casino.

win some lose some
mutual funds rarelyt participate in teh open market and rarely buy or sell in the open market. it's over the counter stuff

the market is so thin for some stocks a 10,000 share market order over would crash the stock...or trigger flash crash.





Quote from NoDoji:

You are CLUELESS! Do you know what CLUELESS means? It means "having no clue whatsoever to help solve a mystery". The mystery for you is trading.

Day traders do not move the market. There is plenty of volume without day traders. Institutional investors move the market.

And why do you care if price moves because of a short squeeze or because institutional investors want to buy stocks or commodities, or want to hedge positions?

Day traders only care that price moves. Price stagnating is no good. It must move. Why it moves and which direction it moves is irrelevant.

Do you know why price moves up? Because more market participants want to buy something than want to sell it.

Does it matter why more of them want to buy? No.

Either they're afraid it's going higher against them (short squeeze) or they're afraid it's going higher without them. It's just the opposite when price moves down.

This is a site for professional traders or those that would like to become professional traders. What is the point of your posts here?
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Quote from brokenmarkets:

institutions also daytrade fool.
90% volume is institutional daytrading volume automated trading.

what do you mean by institutions..institutions ahve an entire department for daytrading or short term trading.

it's just on big casino game...and they play it like a casino.
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Once you learn to trade like a casino (following price with a risk smaller than the profit target on each trade), instead of like a gambler (forming an opinion about price being too high or too low and taking a position based on YOUR opinion), you'll be consistently profitable and won't care one bit whether markets are rigged or not.

If you're a buy and hold investor, then you should care whether markets are rigged or not, and hedge your bets accordingly.

This, however, is Elite Trader, not Elite Investor.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

Once you learn to trade like a casino (following price with a risk smaller than the profit target on each trade), instead of like a gambler (forming an opinion about price being too high or too low and taking a position based on YOUR opinion), you'll be consistently profitable and won't care one bit whether markets are rigged or not.

If you're a buy and hold investor, then you should care whether markets are rigged or not, and hedge your bets accordingly.

This, however, is Elite Trader, not Elite Investor.
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Excellent advice, but as some of us know, most here love to blame their trading woes on conspiracy theories(blame game).
 
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