Are futures Demo accounts realistic for profit?

two main issues....
You dont get filled on the bid and the ask instantly like some demos show. Too many prospects think they can buy the bid and sell the ask with 10000 lots and do it all day....does not happen in realtime, there is a cue and you need to have the market trade at your price with enough volume to hit your place in line.
The second is lack of fear or greed....you can only emulate these feelings with real money...even if you use MICROS
 
two main issues....
You dont get filled on the bid and the ask instantly like some demos show. Too many prospects think they can buy the bid and sell the ask with 10000 lots and do it all day....does not happen in realtime, there is a cue and you need to have the market trade at your price with enough volume to hit your place in line.
The second is lack of fear or greed....you can only emulate these feelings with real money...even if you use MICROS

There are a few differences you need to keep in mind from what i first read:

1. Liquidity, in demo you are able to open 10000 contracts in less than a second at one single price point, in real live that is not the case, not with any futures contract out there.

2.Execution, no slippage in demo, there is slippage when trading live, especially when trading very large size. Slippage happens while entering a trade (unless you use limit orders) and slippage happens while exiting an order (unless you use a stop limit order but then you might never get filled at all).

4. Another classic one, is the strategy doing so called martingale? Always seems lovely in demo, never sustainable in the long run with real money.
In demo you can just keep adding to your position, or even doubling it every time it goes a few ticks against you. The difference here is that every time you do so your losses get bigger and bigger, something you can handle in demo but will not have the stomach nor the cash for while trading real money.

3. Maybe the most important/significant one, psychology. When trading live you will act and react completely different with real money on the line. A lot of traders lose and never stop losing purely because of psychology. Sometimes its arrogance, thinking they are the best ever and just had some bad luck, things will be different next time (NOT). Sometimes it is fear, fear of losing real money. After a few losing experiences traders start to take profits before it reaches the profit target, out of fear for losing the little profit they have now, but let losers run to the stop loss resulting in a negative risk:reward. Often even moving the stop loss even further in the hope things will turn around.

You are right about trading demo first until you are sure, however there is only one way to be 100% sure, to find out all of the above for you personally and that is trading with actual money on the line, in demo you will never experience these examples that can make all the difference.

Funny how posts like these, that actually contain the hard reality always get ignored by new traders.

I guess it doesn't fit the unrealistic dream picture in their fantasy so they just ignore it. Funny how all new traders make the same mistakes, even when someone points them out as clearly as here.

Some are more doomed than others, there are new traders that will actually take these points in to consideration and there are others who will just ignore them all until they hit a wall themselves, even then they probably won't see the light.
 
Yes. Slippage is what tends to effect your strategy returns. Also, mentality of putting on trades is different, as you are trading with a real account. I have a group of traders I trade with. Our strategy is very high success rate, for years now, but your mind still finds it hard to pull the trigger, even on trades that are 90%, on daily basis.
Most successful traders also will not disclose their percentages, as they can change in any market condition.
Adaptation to a difficult or changing market is also a big factor that good traders will grapple with, sooner or later
 
Yes. Slippage is what tends to effect your strategy returns. Also, mentality of putting on trades is different, as you are trading with a real account. I have a group of traders I trade with. Our strategy is very high success rate, for years now, but your mind still finds it hard to pull the trigger, even on trades that are 90%, on daily basis.
Most successful traders also will not disclose their percentages, as they can change in any market condition.
Adaptation to a difficult or changing market is also a big factor that good traders will grapple with, sooner or later

I have used a few Demo accounts that do take slippage into account, so I think it could be a liquidity thing I'm seeing, particularly in the Firetip demo account. The futures spreads may be too illiquid, so they show a large difference between entry price and current price.
 
I have used a few Demo accounts that do take slippage into account, so I think it could be a liquidity thing I'm seeing, particularly in the Firetip demo account. The futures spreads may be too illiquid, so they show a large difference between entry price and current price.

A demo account will never display accurate slippage, not even the platforms that claim to take slippage into account, it's just impossible.

If you open 1000 contracts on let say CL, the price in demo will not move, so no slippage, in live environment you will have a slippage that is going to cost you a lot of money.
 
A demo account will never display accurate slippage, not even the platforms that claim to take slippage into account, it's just impossible.

If you open 1000 contracts on let say CL, the price in demo will not move, so no slippage, in live environment you will have a slippage that is going to cost you a lot of money.

Actually, most of the demo accounts I have used, will not allow large contracts. You are limited to whatever the market can handle at the time. So, that combined with the fact that I accept slippage will happen in a live account means I already understand some differences between real and demo.
 
Actually, most of the demo accounts I have used, will not allow large contracts. You are limited to whatever the market can handle at the time. So, that combined with the fact that I accept slippage will happen in a live account means I already understand some differences between real and demo.

Then how did you make millions of demo profit like you mentioned in a previous posts? That's not possible without huge size.

Like the 2 million profit in 1 spread trade?
 
Then how did you make millions of demo profit like you mentioned in a previous posts? That's not possible without huge size.

Like the 2 million profit in 1 spread trade?

I will screenshot it on here. Bear with me and I'll upload that.
 
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