Anyone Made 100%+ a Year Consistently With Futures Or Know Of Anyone Who Has?

[aquarian1]

20K *2^15yrs =$20,000 * 32768 =$65,536,000

 

[murray t turtle]

How do u calculate returns when futures are leveraged?

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Skip the drawdowns,[ that varies anyway] LOL. Click up a 12 month TX Tea [CrudeLight]chart; up > 6.59%=/ [open to close]. Co magnum could most likely tell you how to trade better than, that buy + hold; especially with the 12 month hi/low /40 to $58/+ Numbers are not exact; ticker symbol ''OIL''did not do that well;so better find something better to trade than than that ''liquid'' ETF.

 

[tortoise]

So you can make 50% in less than 3 months but nobody can make 100% in 1 year? I thought that only the pope could speak in dogmas.
Your 50% in less then 3 months equals (not compounded) over 200% a year. According to your own logic you should be billionaire. Even much faster than in 15-20 years.

Are you James Simons? LOL.

You're failing to take into account liquidity effects as account size grows. Very quickly, you'll reach the practical scaling limits of your trading methodology, at which point you're no longer compounding but generating cash flow.

Not a bad state of affairs, that. But hardly billionaire status.

 

[DDR]

It's a shame your heading didn't say 30% a year because now by saying 100% it confirms your completely delusional

 

[Mtrader]

It's a shame your heading didn't say 30% a year because now by saying 100% it confirms your completely delusional

Depends of what and how you trade. For a good daytrader 100% is not a problem.

Proofs again that people always think others trade what they trade. And always they think black or white, never in shades from black to white.

 

[Mtrader]

20K *2^15yrs =$20,000 * 32768 =$65,536,000

ET is filled with smart to even brilliant people (according to themselves). But that makes it so funny that big mathematical errors are even not recognized by any of the geniuses.

The result is not $65,536,000 as calculated, but $655,360,000. Just 1 zero of difference, but in $ this "zero error" is worth $589,824,000. I start to better understand how genius the geniuses are on ET. And when papertrading they will not see the error. For that you need a REAL account. Then you would also understand that this logic of eternal compounding is wrong and unrealistic.

I never take anything for granted that other people tell. I always check for myself. Now you know why.
Before learning to trade people should maybe first learn to calculate? At least to the level just beyond kindergarten? LOL.

 

[johnnyrock]

Retail are funny, and apparently idiotically stupid being illiterate, because as previously said generating triple digit income returns is relatively simple, generating triple digit capital is not. Over 1,000s posts and still doesn't understand the difference between logarithmic income and exponential capital generation.



Exactly, referencing the illiterate part you can see why, too funny.

Serious question here. Wouldn't proper pyramiding during a bull run in grains, live cattle or even the ES lead to exponential capital gains?

Up to this point I have blown up three different times pyramiding at the exact wrong Time! So any suggestions on pyramiding would be welcome.

 

[Mtrader]

Serious question here. Wouldn't proper pyramiding during a bull run in grains, live cattle or even the ES lead to exponential capital gains?

Up to this point I have blown up three different times pyramiding at the exact wrong Time! So any suggestions on pyramiding would be welcome.

You should understand that exponential works in both ways, profits and losses. The loss side you apparently know already. Now find out the way to the profit side.

 

[johnnyrock]

You should understand that exponential works in both ways, profits and losses. The loss side you apparently know already. Now find out the way to the profit side.

Until I come up with a better plan I will reduce leverage as the account grows.

 

[Mtrader]

Until I come up with a better plan I will reduce leverage as the account grows.

Smart to do, even if you make almost always money. I always take money out of my account whene a certain level is reached. This also helps you to avoid a complete wipeout.