Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Quote from invertedCurve:

bro ADP gave mkt cause to think of QE I would not hold a position that is against you going into NFP. 3 to 4 ticks is noise by the way and there are 32 ticks in 1 point or handle, tick goes 127.05 to 127.055 to 127.06 that is 2 half ticks in every tick 32 ticks to a handle in ZN where the two's and five's have quarter ticks and the ZB has full ticks. Just trying to get your terminology correct from the sound of your posts you may not have the equity to take an algo/Pimco jimmy jam so have a stop in and don't let one trade blow you out.

good luck with NFP the ZN is at/near the yearly high and ZB is not far from it. the ten year yield yesterday was the lowest since the Da brothers Lehman went down (late 08 early 09) Bernanke has that much effect so dont get in the way of the freight train profit from the carnage. I remember the day when the Fed did a 300 B QE in early 09 think the 10 year cash popped 5 handles!!!! so be careful... I personally think QE is stupid what do I know.

P.S. Plosser is a tosser all that matters is Big Ben...
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Tanks! I hear you.
 
Quote from invertedCurve:

I keep getting short since June and keep getting fucked over and over and over the yield is so low....

has not been this low since early 09 I keep selling it and getting FUCKED
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Yup, that 10Y yield was in a range and then keeping going down and down..
Anyone have access to a ZN / FGBL yields spread chart, please?
 
Quote from invertedCurve:

I keep getting short since June and keep getting fucked over and over and over the yield is so low....

has not been this low since early 09 I keep selling it and getting FUCKED
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Catching tops and bottoms is very expensive. The market has been in a clear uptrend all this time.
 
Quote from Optionpro007:

Catching tops and bottoms is very expensive. The market has been in a clear uptrend all this time.
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taking about the day trade and the only reason it has been up is over bloated bond funds and Benjamin SHalom Bernanke who is a fucking idiot!
 
So the entire market is long on duration with relentless asian and central bank buying... you are wrong - and your blame is away... how's that working out for you.

Quote from invertedCurve:

taking about the day trade and the only reason it has been up is over bloated bond funds and Benjamin SHalom Bernanke who is a fucking idiot!
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Quote from ivanbaj:

I am short and I am sad. Time to bail out?
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Ivan you are not trading, you are gambling. You put yourself in the position you are in, you are the only person responsible for your position, nobody else. Pain is not a stop strategy.

With that said, we are most likely putting in a long term top this week or next perhaps, but it is impossible to tell what the exact top will be.
 
Outright yield... maybe... until QE2 announces and we see 20bps lower in 10s. 2s10s flattener still makes sense, imo - QE2-> flatter curve as accts reach for yield; Recovery -> flatter curve as ylds back up.

Quote from Optionpro007:

Ivan you are not trading, you are gambling. You put yourself in the position you are in, you are the only person responsible for your position, nobody else. Pain is not a stop strategy.

With that said, we are most likely putting in a long term top this week or next perhaps, but it is impossible to tell what the exact top will be.
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