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ANTI-WAR/USA BASHERS: WHERE ARE YOU NOW, MFERS?!?!
- Thread starter FRuiTY PeBBLe
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You're not a flame troller? And obviously, there is no cut & paste to support the above, which is an example of your original thought processes and a pretty feeble prediction. Here's my prognostication: You get the V-H Total Idiot Award.Quote from msfe:
BAGHDAD FALLS: PRESIDENT BUSH EXTENDS A HEARTFELT RADIO OLIVE BRANCH TO IRAQ'S PROUD POPULATION OF NEWLY-LIBERATED, SOON-TO-BE-CHRISTIAN, PETROLEUM-PUMPIN' EUNUCHS
Shades of Saddam:
Cuba executes 3 by firing squad for hijacking ferry
By ANITA SNOW
Associated Press
Posted April 11 2003, 1:50 PM EDT
HAVANA -- Three men charged with terrorism for hijacking a passenger ferry last week were executed Friday after summary trials, the government reported.
The men were prosecuted Tuesday in summary trials for "very grave acts of terrorism'' and given several days to appeal their sentences, according to a statement read on state television.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...utes3,0,363714.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
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Cuba certainly qualifies for offering the right to a speedy trial.
Cuba executes 3 by firing squad for hijacking ferry
By ANITA SNOW
Associated Press
Posted April 11 2003, 1:50 PM EDT
HAVANA -- Three men charged with terrorism for hijacking a passenger ferry last week were executed Friday after summary trials, the government reported.
The men were prosecuted Tuesday in summary trials for "very grave acts of terrorism'' and given several days to appeal their sentences, according to a statement read on state television.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...utes3,0,363714.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
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Cuba certainly qualifies for offering the right to a speedy trial.
...about some things:
John Burns in Baghdad,
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/i...ial/11BAGH.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
The looters appeared, mainly, to concentrate on sites associated with Mr. Hussein, sparing most private homes and businesses.
Among the attacks that had a strong political edge were those on the German Embassy and the French cultural center, both in east Baghdad. Few Iraqis were unaware, in the weeks preceding the war, that France and Germany were leading international efforts to force President Bush into accepting an extension of United Nations weapons inspections here, and to delay military action against Mr. Hussein.
The French and German buildings were stripped of furniture, curtains, decorations, and anything else that could be carried away.
At the French cultural center, where looters burst water pipes and flooded the ground floor, books were left floating in the reading rooms and corridors, and a photograph of Jacques Chirac, the French president, was smashed. French reporters said the French Embassy, also on the Tigris's east bank, appeared to have been spared because it remained under the protection of French military guards. The German Embassy was unprotected.
John Burns in Baghdad,
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/i...ial/11BAGH.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
Quote from max401:
Great post! Hart and Ritter should be shot at dawn; no blindfold, no cigarette.
I think community service would be sufficient - possibly a few months cleaning out some of the filthier and danker cells adjoining Iraqi torture chambers.
On this subject, Further evidence of Ritter's total lack of character in this recent, widely reported quote on the infamous children's prison, in TIME Magazine:
"The prison in question was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children - toddlers up to pre-adolescents - whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace." - Scott Ritter
Also appearing on Andrew Sullivan's indispensable blog.
Actually, I'm not sure there's any punishment that could be much worse than having to BE Scott Ritter.
Quote from KymarFye:
On this subject, Further evidence of Ritter's total lack of character in this recent, widely reported quote on the infamous children's prison, in TIME Magazine:
Kymar, it is becoming glaringly obvious to me that you cannot help but to infuse your posts with whatever emotion you happen to be feeling at the time. (As evidenced by your childish remark that I have "ZERO" interest in freedom [humanity, compassion etc]).
Nobody is denying that such gruesome things occurred in Iraq. The question is do such occurrances warrant an invasion, occupation and a well-chosen regime change? You are happy to don your Superman cape and scream "Hell YES!" but others, like me, are not so sure. (Well, I'm sure -- sure that the answer is hell NO!).
Then you quite obviously have "ZERO" interest in freedom humanity, compassion, etc.Quote from alfonso:
Nobody is denying that such gruesome things occurred in Iraq. The question is do such occurrances warrant an invasion, occupation and a well-chosen regime change? You are happy to don your Superman cape and scream "Hell YES!" but others, like me, are not so sure. (Well, I'm sure -- sure that the answer is hell NO!).
Quote from alfonso:
Kymar, it is becoming glaringly obvious to me that you cannot help but to infuse your posts with whatever emotion you happen to be feeling at the time. (As evidenced by your childish remark that I have "ZERO" interest in freedom [humanity, compassion etc]).
Nobody is denying that such gruesome things occurred in Iraq. The question is do such occurrances warrant an invasion, occupation and a well-chosen regime change? You are happy to don your Superman cape and scream "Hell YES!" but others, like me, are not so sure. (Well, I'm sure -- sure that the answer is hell NO!).
In themselves, crimes against humanity of the sort perpetrated by Saddam's regime certainly justify change. Where such atrocities are widespread, and in fact constitute the basis of the regime's hold on power, they make that regime totally illegitimate, in my view. How one goes about effecting the completely worthwhile goal of getting rid of such criminals is another question. Unfortunately, for complex reasons, this goal is not readily achievable in all parallel instances.
As so often, you misquote and misconstrue even the simplest statement. I said you "evidenced" zero appreciation for human freedom. Over and over again, you find excuses for tyrants and totalitarians, seek to minimize the overwhelming evidence of widespread and systematic brutality in Baathist Iraq in particular, and in the meantime place your particular position on "international law" - which you seem to fantasize is some sacrosanct, fully developed corpus of reasonable, comprehensive, and universally just and applicable regulations - above the fates of real, living and breathing victims.
Now, after having been pulled kicking and screaming out into the light, you seem to admit that getting rid of Hussein et al is a good thing. Ok, I'll concede, that appears to show at least some appreciation for human freedom, though I don't see how that can possibly, in any reasonable way, square with your repeatedly stated (and typically fantastical) wish for an American military defeat in Iraq. I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that your "whole-hearted" anti-Americanism is, in your mind, based on this and related postive values. I strongly believe, however, that if you held human freedom to be deserving of more than grudging acceptance within your value system, you would be incapable of "whole-hearted" anti-Americanism, and, indeed, your entire worldview, as expressed in some detail on ET, would need to be extensively re-adjusted.
Your highest recommondation? Sheesh! I hate to see one of your medium grade recs. In any event, A. I got your clue; "I'm sure -- sure that the answer is hell NO!" and B. You have been proven wrong by a convincingly high margin. Next case.Quote from alfonso:
Max, my highest recommendation to you is to get a clue before engaging in a discussion. Or are you trying to be the American version of msfe?