Another school shooting

Tsing Tao said:
You wanna get pissed about something? This shit needs to be investigated immediately. Cops that did not engage - assuming that is what happened - should be held under criminal charges. I don't know what exactly happened yet, but a full FEDERAL investigation should be done on everyone all the way up to the highest cop in the land.

If you are an officer and you don't immediately and unconditionally engage to protect children, go find another fucking job.

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But the immediate hero worship tells us they "ran towards the fire". That's there job. IF they botched this holding back to try and gain some tactical advantage, considering what was at stake, some heads need to roll. Somebody needed to bust through those windows with others following. Yes, probably a death sentence. That's a hero. Everything else is just doing the job you signed up for.
 
UsualName said:
Around and around we go. No. No country as the amount of privately owned guns as America. The last I checked for every 100 people there is 120 guns. That is off of the charts bananas amounts of guns.

And you don’t need to put worked in quotes, there is no doubt virtually every other western country has a gun regulation scheme that works.
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Right. So would you concede - even slightly - that what has worked elsewhere might have to be adjusted, or might not work, on the US because of the sheer amount of guns in circulation?

By the way, you get bonus points every time you use the phrase "round and round we go".
 
UsualName said:
Yup. We know the right will throw anything out there besides the measures we know will work.

Tou guys don’t seem to understand that it’s the amount of guns that is the problem. You’re suffering from the boiled frog syndrome. Things are changing dramatically but you can’t notice because it’s a slow progression. Very similar to climate change. Keeping all conditions the same will only grow the problem. We can look forward to a future of more gun violence almost every year, year after year until we get sensible regulations.
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No, I think we understand that the amount of guns that is a serious contributing factor. But you don't have a solution to that with your "annual check".

Additionally, the only thing you're focused on is the amount of guns. And that can't be the only consideration.
 
UsualName said:
Around and around we go. No. No country as the amount of privately owned guns as America. The last I checked for every 100 people there is 120 guns. That is off of the charts bananas amounts of guns.

And you don’t need to put worked in quotes, there is no doubt virtually every other western country has a gun regulation scheme that works.
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Where are all the mass shootings in Montana, Wyoming and West Virginia?

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VEGASDESERT said:
20 of the last 30 deadliest mass shootings since 1950 have been in the social media
and graphic video game era. Call me crazy, i think there is a connection.
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Population pressure (population + density), i.e. crowding and interference, are surely part of the problem. Seventy years of growth and more importantly, urbanization. Rising inequality is probably making it worse. Relative resource "scarcening". Altogether, life is getting harder for a huge part of the population and that's taking an emotional and mental health toll. Mix in, as you say, social media, even the whole internet, and you get the siloing effect, too.
 
gwb-trading said:
Well.... all the conservatives worshiping Musk may shortly be seeking a new idol.

Musk favors some gun control, calls for special assault rifle permits for 'extremely well vetted' people
Musk says assault rifles should require a special permit, where the recipient is extremely well vetted
https://www.foxbusiness.com/busines...l-assault-rifle-permits-extremely-well-vetted
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I think most conservatives wouldnt mind something like that, the fear is you give an
inch the other side will try to take a mile eventually, first its special permit for certain long guns, then hand guns, then shot guns, then sling shots...

hence the proverbial digging of heals..
 
VEGASDESERT said:
I think most conservatives wouldnt mind something like that, the fear is you give an
inch the other side will try to take a mile eventually, first its special permit for certain long guns, then hand guns, then shot guns, then sling shots...

hence the proverbial digging of heals..
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Precisely. The extreme left makes the extreme right and vice versa. The middle folks who will compromise are crowded out and nothing gets done.

Same as it ever was.
 
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