Another Floridian just standing his ground

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Insecure little men with limited gray matter mixed with guns makes for trouble.
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you shouldn't be talking about obama like that, it will piss off the tribe.
 
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If I misstated your position on zimmerman, I apologize. I do seem to recall that you took essentially the same position you are taking here, namely that someone who "starts" a situation by asking for music to be toned down or a late night party to be shut down is asking for trouble and loses the right to use force to protect themselves.

I do get your point that some people feel carrying a gun gives them the right to be a jerk. Frankly, I wouldn't have said anything to the guys with the loud music just because I am adverse to trouble at my age.

That doesn't mean the guy who shot them isn't telling the truth. His version of the story seems a lot more credible to me than theirs. If they pulled guns and were threatening him, he isn't required to sit there and wait to get shot before he responds. The fact the police didn't find any weapons means absolutely nothing. They had plenty of time to ditch them.

I generally agree with you on most stuff, but I don't understand the rush to condemn this guy without knowing the facts. We all agree that if he just opened up on them because they dissed him that he is in the wrong. How likely is that though?
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I don't necessarily think that a guy, any guy, loses his right to defend his life, even if he provoked the action. You do what you must at that point, but when it goes to court the fact that you provoked the whole incident won't, and shoudn't be ignored.
All I'm saying is we're starting to see far too many trigger happy people looking for trouble, and then the first words out of their mouth is, I was standing my ground as a defence when the shit hits the fan.
My real problem with this guy is why did he run his mouth to begin with? My opinion is he and people like him have grown balls they wouldn't otherwise have if not for the gun and the presumption that they have this stand your ground law to fall back on. It's one thing to defend yourself, but if you're looking for shit it ain't all that hard to find. The question is would they be looking without the gun? I doubt it.
 
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...The question is would they be looking without the gun? I doubt it.
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While I believe in "over-equalizers", (it's the only way to fight), the answer to your specific question, brother Captain, is obviously, no.

Quite amazing how a gun makes a "man" outta so many, huh?
 
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I don't necessarily think that a guy, any guy, loses his right to defend his life, even if he provoked the action. You do what you must at that point, but when it goes to court the fact that you provoked the whole incident won't, and shoudn't be ignored.
All I'm saying is we're starting to see far too many trigger happy people looking for trouble, and then the first words out of their mouth is, I was standing my ground as a defence when the shit hits the fan.
My real problem with this guy is why did he run his mouth to begin with? My opinion is he and people like him have grown balls they wouldn't otherwise have if not for the gun and the presumption that they have this stand your ground law to fall back on. It's one thing to defend yourself, but if you're looking for shit it ain't all that hard to find. The question is would they be looking without the gun? I doubt it.
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Listening to the video it's the cops that are trying to deny this was some "knockout gang". The kid, according to the video admitted the crime.
This is completely different that what we're discussing in this thread. What the video shows in just another stupid f'n nigger that should be shot dead, thrown in the dump, and left for the rats to feed on.

The video also shows that if you find yourself walking in an area like that it's best to not be blissfully ignorant of your surroundings. Be ready to defend yourself. Look ready. Be ready. These punk ass savages are looking for easy prey. Don't be easy prey.
 
Well if this story follows standard protocol the media will run wild and make all kinds of claims of racism and other accusations that are not accurate. In the months that follow as more details will emerge it will become apparent that the media cherry picked the facts and flat out lied about other facts. We have seen this show before folks. Anyone who would accept the media's account is an idiot.

The biggest question is when does Obama, Holder, Jackson, Sharpton and all the other race hustlers begin trying to capitalize on the incident.
 
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Listening to the video it's the cops that are trying to deny this was some "knockout gang". The kid, according to the video admitted the crime.
This is completely different that what we're discussing in this thread. What the video shows in just another stupid f'n nigger that should be shot dead, thrown in the dump, and left for the rats to feed on.
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hmm the only difference I see is the intended victim had a gun.
 
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