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Another example of our fine "Justice System"
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Quote from hapaboy:
The sum of your lenthy diatribes, when boiled down to their essence, is:
HUMAN EXISTENCE AS MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT IS BUT A DREAM. IT'S NOT REAL. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT REAL, YOU WILL BE FREE FROM THE PAIN ASSOCIATED WITH IT. WHY? BECAUSE THE PAIN, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IS NOT REAL.
Yes. Not only that, it was over in an instant. You underestimate the power of Christ. You are now reviewing a recording. You "see" and "hear" and "feel" a recording, and think it is live. It is not live. That is why I said that bodies are "dead". They are prerecorded messages....symbols, and nothing more.
God has given you a "real world" to view instead, on your way back home. You cannot see it till you choose to. Once you are "chosen", without vacillating back and forth, you can see it. It too is a prerecorded message, but it's as heavenly as your world will ever get...and it is beautiful. It prepares you for the real thing, gently, gradually...because you are not yet ready for reassimilation back into reality all at once. It would be too shocking for you. You are being gently awakened from a long deep sleep so frightening, that reality would scare the hell back into you. And in a state of fear, you cannot re-enter Heaven.
It is this "world" - a borderland between Heaven and the world you made up - that is spoken of in the Bible: "For God so loved the world that he gave it to his only begotten Son". I have corrected this message with "to". This is a world you cannot see so long as you are desiring and choosing to see the recording you are looking at.
This is the real world requiring vision to see. With it, you can look on what seemed terrifying, and see it change to sights of loveliness and peace. When you have looked on scenes of violence and death and watched them change to quiet views of gardens under open skies, with clear life-giving water running happily beside them in dancing brooks that never waste away...who need persuade you to accept the gift of vision?
And after vision, who is there who could refuse what must come after? These gentle sights and sounds are looked upon happily, and heard with joy. They are God's substitutes for all the terrifying sights and screaming sounds you allowed to be brought to your awareness.
Vision is the means by which your nightmares are translated into happy dreams. Vision translates all the wild hallucinations that show you all the fearful outcomes of imagined sin into the calm and reassuring sights with which He would replace them. Only this world can be "loved" because it closely parallels reality. What does not exist - your world - cannot be loved. You may say, "Doesn't God care about all the suffering? How can He just "replace" it?" Brother, the suffering does not exist but in your own mind! Change your mind, and change what you see. Let the world be what He thinks it is. Otherwise, it will be what you think it is.
You think you are "here". You are not. This is nowhere. If not, where are you? "You" are that aspect of Christ-mind that is choosing to view/experience episodes of a world long gone. The only question is, why are you watching re-runs when you can be happy instead?
You are watching re-runs because you are right! ...about judgments you've made about yourself and your brothers. And you are hell-bent to prove it! Brother, like I said, "It is finished!"
If you are going to watch re-runs, then why not watch "It's a Wonderful World" with Jimmy Stewart, and the "angel" who just wanted to get his wings?
Or, you could watch that Brady Bunch episode where they go to Hawaii and get their hands on a Tiki idol that brings them bad luck.
Quote from hapaboy:
So, 9-year-old Jessica rape and murder was but a dream?
Yes. But it was her dream. Rather, it was the dream of that aspect of Christ-mind that chose to review sections of the dream.
This is no secret. Shakespeare summed it up thusly: "All the world is a stage, and we are merely players".
In the back and forth dance of victim-victimizer, everyone get's a chance to stand on the sidelines wearing the bloody robes of self-righteousness judgement. What role are you playing when you react to such dream figures? They are there because you want to see them!
Ask any Kahuna on your island paradise, "What is first in Huna?" Answer: "The world is what you think it is".
And if it's true that a man is what he thinks he is, it is equally true a Christ is what he thinks he is. And if you think you are man, then so be it: Thy will be done in Heaven...and in earth!.
Quote from hapaboy:
Her parents did not really know her, because they also don't realize what is a dream.
The dream began when aspects of the Christ-mind denied knowing themselves. Bodies are "veils" over the face of Christ, that you may not recognize reality. They are masks at a masquerade, deliberately covering the face of Christ. Throughout the dream, bodies deny they are Christ. They suffer and die until they recognize one another. Christ is power. The dream is about the seeking of powerlessness...helplessness! Children in the dream are taught that they are helpless r-e-l-e-n-t-l-e-s-s-l-y from early age, by parents who have denied power, and therefore teach helplessness.
The dream is where Christ comes to die. What does it matter the form of death? Suicide-by-cop, "old age"...what's the difference? None. They are both equally not real. The world is a place where the deathless - Christ - comes to die. It is a dream to die for. Why? For the hell of it? No. Because he forgot to laugh at a silly idea: That he could separate and be separated from his Creator. Forgetting to laugh, he took it way too seriously. Built upon that notion - that faulty foundation - more complex notions were stacked and taken seriously. These are now seriously insane notions [acronym: sin]. You still take them seriously, and you are still forgetting to laugh.
Bottom line: None of it is true. And without a true cause, there are no true effects. For every effect that you take seriously - worshipping as if it were real - God has placed a miracle as part of the real world. There is not one single "problem" you think you have, that has not already been gifted with an answer, a healing, or a reversal of effect. Preventative medicine is simply to tell the truth.
Thus, the world you made is waiting for you to save it. Rest assured, if you believe in helplessness, it will eventually lead to violence and murder. If you believe in power, you need not see such things...and those who head your words.
Helplessness is a seriously insane notion. I am come to tell you that all sin is a mistake that you can correct. Death is a mistake. It is not how to solve conflict in the mind. Therefore it is not your salvation. You are saved by the truth.
Brother, you are Christ suffering delusions of helplessness.
Quote from hapaboy:
Her suffering was her own fault, because she did not realize it was a dream?
"She" is Christ, your sister...you! And it was her dream of helplessness. You are your brother's keeper. Where were you during her ordeal?
Quote from hapaboy:
Is this really what you're saying?!?
Yes. So you can forgive the characters in the dream, and yourself for dreaming it up in the first place.
Now, won't you come home? Why delay happiness?
Jesus
I am... You may <b>wish</b> you had the ability to 'wish away' all of the pain and sickness out of your life- Maybe there are moments when you <i>think</i> you're actually capable of such a super-human feat. But you can't really do that. No one can.
I do wish I had the ability to produce such beautiful self-delusions... for happiness is certainly more important than truth.
I do wish I had the ability to produce such beautiful self-delusions... for happiness is certainly more important than truth.
Quote from Rearden Metal:
I am... You may <b>wish</b> you had the ability to 'wish away' all of the pain and sickness out of your life- Maybe there are moments when you <i>think</i> you're actually capable of such a super-human feat. But you can't really do that. No one can.
I do wish I had the ability to produce such beautiful self-delusions... for happiness is certainly more important than truth.
You judge yourself too harshly my friend. Happiness and truth go hand in hand. The world is not happy because it is not the truth.
I am explaining the origins of the world you see so that you may realize you do have the power of choice.
All I ask is for a fair hearing so that you can see how it all works.
Ultimately, the world is not the truth, because it is not the truth about you. It is the false answer to the question, "What am I?" It is how you answered that question. And the world was given all your power to deceive you. Therefore, if you ask the world what you are, you will receive a false answer. Ask any "body", and it will be wrong.
I am saying that all the power in the world, you gave to it. And you can take it back. You have faith in your world: your answer to the question, "What am I?" Your faith in it is all that is holding it together. And where your faith is there will be your treasure. When you withdraw your investments in the world you made, and turn that same faith in the direction of your true identity, you will see the difference.
Because you are joy, the world is joyless. It is the exact measure of how much joy you allow yourself to be. This is because being and having are the same thing. For this reason you do not "go to" Heaven as if it was given to you. You are Heaven, and the world you made is everything you are not. So it's not your "home".
Don't expect this to be printed on the front page of the Washington Post. The world is empowered to deceive you, according to your wish to be something other than what you are.
Jesus
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He really should have been locked up for good the second time this happened.
Justice closer to being served.
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Couey jury wants death for Florida girl's killer
POSTED: 12:30 a.m. EDT, March 15, 2007
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Jurors on Wednesday recommended the death penalty for John Evander Couey, who was found guilty last week of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and murdering 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford.
The majority of the jury -- 10 in favor of death, 2 against it -- rendered the decision about 5:30 p.m. ET. In Florida, the vote does not have to be unanimous to recommend the death penalty.
Miami-Dade County Circuit Judge Richard Howard will make the final decision on Couey's sentence, but judges typically follow a jury's recommendation. (Watch the jury announce its sentence )
As the sentence was read, Couey, 48, sat in the courtroom, fiddled with his tie, and interlaced his fingers.
"This is justice for Jessie, but not just Jessie," said Jessica's father, Mark Lunsford, who cried and hugged supporters after Couey was escorted from the courtroom.
"I'm sure there's other victims out there that they didn't get justice," Lunsford continued. "You crossed paths with Couey and he hurt you, today is justice for you regardless of who you are, whether you're a stranger or a relative."
Asked if the recommended sentence brings him closer to healing, he said, "I'm still not too sure about closure."
She clutched a stuffed toy dolphin
Jessica Marie Lunsford was abducted from her Homosassa Springs, Florida, home February 23, 2005. Her body was found nearly a month later, buried within sight of her own home and behind the house where Couey was staying with a relative.
She was found wrapped in garbage bags, holding a stuffed toy dolphin, her hands bound with stereo wire.
Investigators said Couey abducted Lunsford from her bedroom. Jessica died from asphyxiation after being sexually assaulted, according to a medical examiner's report.
Police arrested Couey in Georgia in March 2005 during the search for Jessica.
His confession helped lead investigators to the girl's body, but a judge ruled the confession was inadmissible in court because he had asked for a lawyer the day before he told police he committed the crime.
Evidence at the trial included Jessica's fingerprints in a closet in Couey's trailer and DNA from Jessica's blood and Couey's semen on a mattress in his bedroom.
Although Wednesday's decision may have seemed quick, "we did have to discuss it," juror Thais Prado, 20, said.
"It was something -- of course it's not an easy decision ... it is a person's life. It didn't seem like it was quick, going through it," said juror Marvin Gunn, 38.
Prado said much of the testimony and evidence was emotionally trying.
"Pictures of the victim, once she was recovered, what was used on her body to tie her -- those are pictures that are very alive in my mind, images that are going to be very hard to forget, if I ever do."
"Jessie was taken from her home, that's the hard part," said alternate juror Osvaldo Pradere, 47, who said he has two small children. "Unfortunately in our society, kids aren't even safe in their own homes, in their own bed."
He said he would hold his children closer now after serving in the case. "Honestly, it will change my life forever."
Jurors noted Couey's lack of remorse or reaction, but said they focused mostly on the evidence presented.
Fueled by anger
Mark Lunsford appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live" recently and was asked if he hated Couey.
"Yeah, definitely. Most definitely," Lunsford said. "But that's what fuels me ... that's where I get my energy to do what I do. It's the anger."
Wednesday, Lunsford said he felt "relief, but still angry."
The death penalty, he said, "Will never compare to the misery that [convicted killers] caused their victims, never."
Lunsford has led a push for stricter sex offender laws since his daughter's 2005 death.
Gov. Jeb Bush signed the Jessica Lunsford Act into Florida law. The legislation calls for prison sentences of 25 years to life for sex offenses against children under age 12, better registration of convicted sex offenders and a Global Positioning System notification mechanism to track down probation violators.
Lunsford read a statement outside the courthouse the day the verdict was handed down, asking that his daughter's death serve as a wake-up call to legislators across the country.
"We have gone through hell and come out the other side with a mission: Before the next family loses a child to America's failed system, we're going to hold lawmakers accountable for allowing this open season on our children," he said.
"We are coming to Washington. We are bringing with us a dedicated plan for a federally funded, federally strategized and nationally waged war on child predators. We will force them to listen."
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Couey jury wants death for Florida girl's killer
POSTED: 12:30 a.m. EDT, March 15, 2007
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Jurors on Wednesday recommended the death penalty for John Evander Couey, who was found guilty last week of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and murdering 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford.
The majority of the jury -- 10 in favor of death, 2 against it -- rendered the decision about 5:30 p.m. ET. In Florida, the vote does not have to be unanimous to recommend the death penalty.
Miami-Dade County Circuit Judge Richard Howard will make the final decision on Couey's sentence, but judges typically follow a jury's recommendation. (Watch the jury announce its sentence )
As the sentence was read, Couey, 48, sat in the courtroom, fiddled with his tie, and interlaced his fingers.
"This is justice for Jessie, but not just Jessie," said Jessica's father, Mark Lunsford, who cried and hugged supporters after Couey was escorted from the courtroom.
"I'm sure there's other victims out there that they didn't get justice," Lunsford continued. "You crossed paths with Couey and he hurt you, today is justice for you regardless of who you are, whether you're a stranger or a relative."
Asked if the recommended sentence brings him closer to healing, he said, "I'm still not too sure about closure."
She clutched a stuffed toy dolphin
Jessica Marie Lunsford was abducted from her Homosassa Springs, Florida, home February 23, 2005. Her body was found nearly a month later, buried within sight of her own home and behind the house where Couey was staying with a relative.
She was found wrapped in garbage bags, holding a stuffed toy dolphin, her hands bound with stereo wire.
Investigators said Couey abducted Lunsford from her bedroom. Jessica died from asphyxiation after being sexually assaulted, according to a medical examiner's report.
Police arrested Couey in Georgia in March 2005 during the search for Jessica.
His confession helped lead investigators to the girl's body, but a judge ruled the confession was inadmissible in court because he had asked for a lawyer the day before he told police he committed the crime.
Evidence at the trial included Jessica's fingerprints in a closet in Couey's trailer and DNA from Jessica's blood and Couey's semen on a mattress in his bedroom.
Although Wednesday's decision may have seemed quick, "we did have to discuss it," juror Thais Prado, 20, said.
"It was something -- of course it's not an easy decision ... it is a person's life. It didn't seem like it was quick, going through it," said juror Marvin Gunn, 38.
Prado said much of the testimony and evidence was emotionally trying.
"Pictures of the victim, once she was recovered, what was used on her body to tie her -- those are pictures that are very alive in my mind, images that are going to be very hard to forget, if I ever do."
"Jessie was taken from her home, that's the hard part," said alternate juror Osvaldo Pradere, 47, who said he has two small children. "Unfortunately in our society, kids aren't even safe in their own homes, in their own bed."
He said he would hold his children closer now after serving in the case. "Honestly, it will change my life forever."
Jurors noted Couey's lack of remorse or reaction, but said they focused mostly on the evidence presented.
Fueled by anger
Mark Lunsford appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live" recently and was asked if he hated Couey.
"Yeah, definitely. Most definitely," Lunsford said. "But that's what fuels me ... that's where I get my energy to do what I do. It's the anger."
Wednesday, Lunsford said he felt "relief, but still angry."
The death penalty, he said, "Will never compare to the misery that [convicted killers] caused their victims, never."
Lunsford has led a push for stricter sex offender laws since his daughter's 2005 death.
Gov. Jeb Bush signed the Jessica Lunsford Act into Florida law. The legislation calls for prison sentences of 25 years to life for sex offenses against children under age 12, better registration of convicted sex offenders and a Global Positioning System notification mechanism to track down probation violators.
Lunsford read a statement outside the courthouse the day the verdict was handed down, asking that his daughter's death serve as a wake-up call to legislators across the country.
"We have gone through hell and come out the other side with a mission: Before the next family loses a child to America's failed system, we're going to hold lawmakers accountable for allowing this open season on our children," he said.
"We are coming to Washington. We are bringing with us a dedicated plan for a federally funded, federally strategized and nationally waged war on child predators. We will force them to listen."
How could there possibly be closure for a father whose little girl was repeatedly raped and then slowly suffocated to death?Quote from I am...:Quote from hapaboy:
Justice closer to being served.
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MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Asked if the recommended sentence brings him closer to healing, he said, "I'm still not too sure about closure."
Oh yeah, I forgot...according to you, it's all a DREAM....and besides, the father never truly knew his daughter anyway. Why? Because he too is but a dream, she was just a dream, therefore their relationship was just a dream....the pedophile/murderer was all a dream too....
Get off the drugs, stop living in denial, and perhaps we can have a rational discussion.
Quote from hapaboy:
How could there possibly be closure for a father whose little girl was repeatedly raped and then slowly suffocated to death?
Oh yeah, I forgot...according to you, it's all a DREAM....and besides, the father never truly knew his daughter anyway. Why? Because he too is but a dream, she was just a dream, therefore their relationship was just a dream....the pedophile/murderer was all a dream too....
Get off the drugs, stop living in denial, and perhaps we can have a rational discussion.
All you prove is that it's not a good time to discuss truth when people are on their way to funerals, weddings and hangings.
I'd best wait till people are actually seeking truth, rather than revenge. Been a couple thousand years now. I've got all the time in the world.
Jesus
You'll be waiting forever.Quote from I am...:
All you prove is that it's not a good time to discuss truth when people are on their way to funerals, weddings and hangings.
I'd best wait till people are actually seeking truth, rather than revenge. Been a couple thousand years now. I've got all the time in the world.
Jesus
The human race is many things. One of the things it is not is collectively stoned out of its mind - at least not yet - which is what it would take for you to achieve that which you wish.
It must be blissful living in the World of Denial every day. I'm sure things are much easier for you when you don't have to face reality.