Another example of our fine "Justice System"

[hapaboy]

You evade the questions. I repeat:

Should Jessica simply have "forgiven" Coury while her 9-year-old immature body was being raped?

When she was suffocating in the trash bags after being buried alive, should she have forgiven her murderer/rapist?

Was the physical agony she endured just a "dream"?

Should we just turn the other cheek on predators like Coury, let them feed on our children unchecked? Is that really your vision of Heaven?

Wanting to prevent the predation of further children and innocents is a "knee-jerk reaction"?

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If you have the intellectual honesty to answer those questions, perhaps we can move on to this next one:

Quote from I am...:

Your target's victim thought like your target, and you. This was her idea of salvation. But because you have made her into an idol, you do not know who or what she really is, or how she was made. You know nothing about her, having denied her reality. You have assigned her a purpose, a role to play, and she has filled that function exactly as you would have her.

How DARE you belittle this little girl's death by stating this?

How DARE you be so presumptive as to state that her death was "her idea of salvation"?

You honestly believe Jessica, age 9, wanted to be raped, kept in a dark closet, taken out to be raped again, and then buried alive in a trash bag underground to slowly suffocate?

Contrary to your statement, I know much more about her than you do.

She was not a "dream."

She was not an "idol."

She was not any impersonal choice of words you have decided upon to casually dismiss in order to spew your metaphysical claptrap.

I'll tell you what she was: a scared little girl, in deep pain, and wondering why this was happening to her. I know she prayed for her parents to find her and make everything in the world right again.

For Chrissakes, she had come home from CHURCH earlier that day, so she was more than likely probably praying for your namesake to come and save her!!!

You are lost. You live in a dream world. You are in need of help. You need to wake up.

The first step: acknowledge your insignificance.

 

[I am...]

Quote from hapaboy:

If you have the intellectual honesty to answer those questions, perhaps we can move on to this next one:

How DARE you belittle this little girl's death by stating this?

How DARE you be so presumptive as to state that her death was "her idea of salvation"?

I dared to belittle all death. I often belittled it by saying things like, "She is just sleeping"...before raising a body from the "dead".

But brother, bodies are dead, which is why I said, "Let the dead bury the dead".

So not only do I belittle death, but I belittle anything that can seem to die.

But I do not belittle the reality behind the symbols, as you do. You belittle all of creation by saying that death is real.

Death is everyone's idea of salvation who belittles himself. And everyone is dying to be saved.

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I'll tell you what she was: a scared little girl, in deep pain, and wondering why this was happening to her.

This describes the feelings of everyone who embodies. Embodiment is a product of these feelings. I repeat: You cannot be in a body unless you feel this way!

All behaviors, actions, events and circumstances in bodies are symbolic of these feelings. Bodies are attempts to stuff these feelings down. The stuffing down makes a split between "conscious" and "unconscious". So what is called "consciousness" is actually unconsciousness. And what is called unconscious, is unconscionably insane.

All behaviors, actions, events and circumstances in bodies are already already played out in the insane part of the the mind. That is why I tell you that you are just seeing a "script".

I am explaining to you how to heal the mind below so that you no longer see such scripts. You will not "prevent" any such scripts from emerging, so long as you play dumb.

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I know she prayed for her parents to find her and make everything in the world right again.

Her parents don't know "her" or who she is...in their unconscious - dead - state. How could they find her?

The world is made right by addressing the belittling feelings that cause you to embody. I am explaining how to address those.

No one taught her how to address these feelings, and if she was in a "Christian" church, she would have been taught how to perpetuate these feelings.

No one taught her attacker how to address these feelings. If they did, he could not have attacked.

No one has taught you how to address these feelings. Maybe that has something to do with your attacks upon intellectual honesty.

Everyone is attacking intellectual honesty: You, the attacker, the victim, the parents, the parents church, the churches mother, the mother's father....

When will you listen and hear my voice?

There is no basis for such feelings. I am teaching you how to deal with them. They are false. The universe built upon them are false. The bodies in the universe are false. The pain they feel is false. The pleasure they feel is false. Nothing about them is true. They are neither good nor bad...they are not real.

Forgive the unreal manifestations of what is below, that you may see that it too is unreal. Release your mind from the grip of fear, and be the light of the world. The world depends on you as it's savior. But first you must be the change you want to see.

Jesus

 

[CaptainObvious]

Hey Hap, do psychiatrists argue with their patients? This guy is obviously nuts. You're wasting your time debating this loon.

 

[I am...]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Hey Hap, do psychiatrists argue with their patients?

No they don't. That's why I'm not arguing with Hap.


Jesus

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from I am...:

That is why I tell you that you are just seeing a "script".

Her parents don't know "her" or who she is...

There is no basis for such feelings. I am teaching you how to deal with them. They are false. The universe built upon them are false. The bodies in the universe are false. The pain they feel is false. The pleasure they feel is false. Nothing about them is true. They are neither good nor bad...they are not real.

You're certifiable.

No more arguing with you.

Any fool who shrugs off the horrific end that came to this little girl with prattle about idols and dreams, saying her parents don't "know" her, and refusing to acknowledge the suffering she went through - and thus refusing to respect what she was, an innocent little girl - has very serious mental problems.

Get yourself committed before you do yourself or others harm. (Not that you would consider it harm, just a "dream"....)

 

[I am...]

Quote from hapaboy:

You're certifiable.

No more arguing with you.

Any fool who shrugs off the horrific end that came to this little girl with prattle about idols and dreams, saying her parents don't "know" her, and refusing to acknowledge the suffering she went through - and thus refusing to respect what she was, an innocent little girl - has very serious mental problems.

Get yourself committed before you do yourself or others harm. (Not that you would consider it harm, just a "dream"....)

Salvation is for the mind. You are committed. I am offering to let you out.

I shrugged off crucifixion, refusing to acknowledge suffering, or to respect what other's thought I was, ie. a "body", "blood", "the king of the jews", a "sacrifice", a "son of man", a "blasphemer"...etc. I refused to respect the tomb they put me in.

It is arrogance to think you are anything other than as God made you. And what you think he made - bodies - are not what you are. Humility states the truth.

You worship death. You are committed to it. So you will obey it, in all it's forms. And you will find more sacrifices to offer it.

When you are tired of blood, come talk to me.

Jesus

 

[hapaboy]

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Salvation is for the mind. You are committed. I am offering to let you out.

I shrugged off crucifixion, refusing to acknowledge suffering, or to respect what other's thought I was, ie. a "body", "blood", "the king of the jews", a "sacrifice", a "son of man", a "blasphemer"...etc. I refused to respect the tomb they put me in.

It is arrogance to think you are anything other than as God made you. And what you think he made - bodies - are not what you are. Humility states the truth.

You did no such thing. The closest you came to crucifixion was laying down on your bed and stretching out your arms.

You're obviously a very disturbed individual suffering delusions of being Christ.

When the drugs wear off and you've undergone therapy, perhaps we can have a rational discussion.

A bit of advice - direct your psychiatrists to this thread and others you've posted on ET, as it will give them a sense as to the depth of your psychosis.

 

[I am...]

Quote from hapaboy:

You did no such thing.

The secret of salvation is this: that you are doing this unto yourself.

No matter what the form of attack, this is still true. Whoever takes the role of enemy and attacker, still this is the truth. Whatever seems to be the cause of any pain and suffering you feel, this is still true.

You would not react at all to figures in a dream you knew that you were dreaming. Let them be as hateful and as vicious as they may, they could have no effects on you unless you failed to recognize it is your dream.

Whatever form of hurt you bring for healing, the answer is this very simple truth. This one answer takes away the cause of every form of sorrow and of pain. The form of the sorrow and pain does not affect this answer at all, for there is a single cause for all the forms.

Miracles reflect this simple statement, "I have done this thing, and it is this I would undo".

Salvation is a secret you have kept only from yourself. The universe proclaims it so. Yet to its witnesses you pay no heed at all. For they attest the thing you do not want to know. They seem to keep it secret from you. Yet you need to learn you choose not to listen, not to see:

You have made death.
You can undo it.
You have made fear.
You can undo it.
You have made pain.
You can undo it.
You have made crime.
You can undo it.
You have made insanity.
You can undo it.
You have crucified yourself.
You can undo it.
You have made storms.
You can calm them.
You have made sickness.
You can heal yourself.
You have made water.
You can walk on it.
You have condemned the world.
You can save it.


This is just an extension of the type of responsibility-taking you can find every day in the self-help section of the Investors Business Daily. Witnesses step forward attesting to the relation between responsibillity-taking, and accomplishment.

All I have done is extended the circle of responsibility further and further out, past my own rings of fear, only to discover that I am responsible for everything in Heaven and earth. You share this responsibility with me, for we are one.

You draw rings of fear around yourself, beyond which you label "insane". How is this different from religious superstition, and those who fear to go "beyond the pale"?

Everyone takes responsibility for something. Whether it's brushing your teeth as a child, or learning to drive as a teen, or starting a business as an "adult", you are taking more and more responsibility and having more effect on your surroundings.

From birth to death, you are responsible for no less than I am. The effect you can have on your surroundings is determined by how much of that you are willing to assume.

You reach adulthood and find you are still held back by "peer pressure"...rings of fear labeled "insane", "unsympathetic"...etc.

Inside the ring of fear is "normal", "sane", "responsible", "culpable", etc. Outside the ring is "abnormal", "weird", "strange", "insane". Your politicians are very careful to position themselves strategically around the band of fear that binds you. And you call this "freedom".

But while you keep these rings of fear around your heart, you are not free. And within the prison of your own making, you share space with "hardened criminals", and others, like you, who do not take full responsibility. While you shirk responsibility, you must fear them, and they you. How is this different from a madhouse? Now you must rely on wards and wardens to keep inmates apart. And just because one is in a padded cell does not mean that you are outside the prison walls. You are only free to seek "fine" warden systems, refine them, and complain when they don't take responsibility!

Brother, there is justice in all of this. There is perfect justice. How differently you will perceive the world when this is recognized! When you forgive the world your guilt, you will be free of it. This is the obvious!

Even CaptainObvious could 'get' this: You keep a secret from no one but yourself. Now you only need to learn that both you and your antagonist are innocent or guilty. The one thing that is impossible is that you be unlike anyone in guilt or innocence. This is the only secret yet to learn. And it will be no secret you are healed.

Jesus

 

[hapaboy]

^^You're obviously a very disturbed individual suffering delusions of being Christ.

The sum of your lenthy diatribes, when boiled down to their essence, is:

HUMAN EXISTENCE AS MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT IS BUT A DREAM. IT'S NOT REAL. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT REAL, YOU WILL BE FREE FROM THE PAIN ASSOCIATED WITH IT. WHY? BECAUSE THE PAIN, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IS NOT REAL.

So, 9-year-old Jessica rape and murder was but a dream?

Her parents did not really know her, because they also don't realize what is a dream.

Her suffering was her own fault, because she did not realize it was a dream?

Is this really what you're saying?!?

 

[I am...]

Quote from hapaboy:

^^You're obviously a very disturbed individual suffering delusions of being Christ.

It's not important whether or not I am Jesus. "Jesus" was and remains a teaching device. My signature is "Jesus" because the message is the same, and I am correcting misperceptions about him, his mission, the content and meaning of his message. If this is a dream, how can Jesus be anything other than a teaching device? You require that your messengers come in bodies so you can "hear" them. But bodies are not real, so it must be a communication device.

What is the same - and non-negotiable - is that I am Christ, and therefore I share in the accomplishments of all my brothers. And what I accomplish, I share. I differ from Jesus only in the unique part I play in the redemption of the rest of my brethren.

Each of us has a piece to the puzzle that is salvation - that no one else can fill. He filled his, I am filling mine, you will fill yours.

Jesus is known by another name where we come from...which is where you come from. Out of respect, I do not use that name, nor will I mention it. Nor is it important who I am, except that...I am. And without the fulfillment of my part, you cannot be saved. And without your part, the rest of our brethren cannot be saved.

So let's cool the ad hominems and focus on the content of the message. It is not the form, it's the message! Kapish?

I am Christ. This is non-negotiable. It is a word that symbolizes the Oneness of our reality. It speaks of all our attributes, as we were Created in the exact image of our Creator. Simply put, I am as God Created me...equal to Him. The attribute I am emphasizing now is power. This is not arrogance. It is humility to state the truth.

You are the "son of man" because you temporarily deny you are the Son of God. And because you deny this, there is "time". In time, you make "wages", and settle for less than everything. Time is an illusion. It is your master while you serve it. You serve it because you cannot serve two entirely incompatible frames of thought. If you build on a foundation of straw, your frame - and it's body - will "perish". If you build on "rock", your "house" - and it's spirit - is eternal. And there are many "mansions" where you come from.

Each frame of thought is "insane" to the other. There is nothing about your illusion that resembles the thoughts of God. What you call "beautiful" is neutral. Let it represent your power and abundance, but let it not represent the truth. Everything you think - and therefore see - is in need of reinterpretation. Otherwise, it has no meaning.

I bring you the same message Jesus brought you, as if he were speaking to you personally. It is the same message because the Source is the same. You will recognize it if you let it in. What you think was his message...well, you have no clue when you identify with a body. When Jesus spoke in terms of "I am..." he spoke for the same Source I speak for.

You think I am insane.

My question for you is: Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy? Listen carefully! This world is not your home!

Rest assured, my message is consistent. It is not caught up in circular reasoning, as yours is. Finally, I am without enemies. Yet you must defend yourself against the inevitable perpetrators stalking your society. How is this different from paranoia?

Choose again, if you will take your place among the saviors of the world.

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