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Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election'
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Quote from Max E. Pad:
What a load of shit, Obamas own economists have produced papers saying that the expiration of ALL bush tax cuts would lead to a 2-3% contraction in GDP.
This is from Christina Romer, so if pulling the tax cuts would lead to a 2-3% contraction, it is safe to say that the tax cuts have boosted the economy, only an idiot would argue against that point.
The discussion has been how those cuts would create jobs, which did not work. And, we have enough loads of shit on both sides, I'm only trying to discuss facts. And Facts seem to be variables these days.
Quote from Ricter:
Solyndra is just one bad bet among tens of thousands of bets, big and small, that government has made the years. "Solyndra is typical" is another false rep meme.
Would you atleast agree there is a larger percentage of solyndras like failed projects in the government than the private sector?
Quote from Max E. Pad:
corruption has nothing to do with the quote you quoted, Solyndra has to do with inefficiency, and government steering money towards things that arent economically viable, that would never be purchased by the end consumer, the government tries to second guess the free market, and they lose, every single time, plus it takes months to get shit done.
Put it this way, would you atleast concede this point, if you were to take a trillion dollars, and you had the choice of either A) handing out proportional amounts to the citizens, or B) keeping it in the government so they can decide how to spend it.
Which one of the two do you think would provide quicker stimulus? Which one of the 2 do you think would have a better multiplier?
Ah, the whole Solyndra debacle is so minor compared to the Mil Ind nonsense with Haliburton, Black water, and the off the books spending that has gone on. Solyndra sucked, but the impact was small overall.
And, to your question, didn't Bush give out $600 or something to everyone? I would rather see millions employed doing infrastructure work, Space work, hell even build the damn Keystone pipeline. Let people work for the welfare, which gets them off welfare net case.
Quote from mrbill:
Ah, the whole Solyndra debacle is so minor compared to the Mil Ind nonsense with Haliburton, Black water, and the off the books spending that has gone on. Solyndra sucked, but the impact was small overall.
Jesus Christ Bill, pay attention, im not a bush fan boy, infact i hate 99% of republicans too, pointing out the crooked business dealings of bush does not justify what obama is doing, they are all big government shit heads who are looting the treasury a the expense of the tax payer.
I don't know the facts of it, but I see that as entirely plausible, yes. A given business just doesn't have the risk protection behind it that government does.Quote from Max E. Pad:
Would you atleast agree there is a larger percentage of solyndras like failed projects in the government than the private sector?
Quote from Max E. Pad:
Jesus Christ Bill, pay attention, im not a bush fan boy, infact i hate 99% of republicans too, pointing out the crooked business dealings of bush does not justify what obama is doing, they are all big government shit heads who are looting the treasury a the expense of the tax payer.
OK, Max, I hear you. Sorry if I came across incorrectly.
Quote from Ricter:
I don't know the facts of it, but I see that as entirely plausible, yes. A given business just doesn't have the risk protection behind it that government does.
If by "risk protection" you mean unlimited funds, then i agree.
Fact of the matter is the private sector attempts to create products that consumers desire, and if they cant do that, they go out of business.
With the government, they try to force consumers to want their products, and when they run out of money they simply re-load compliments of the tax payer.
Its a completely different dynamic.
Quote from mrbill:
The discussion has been how those cuts would create jobs,which did not work
If you accept the fact that eliminating all the Bush Tax cuts would lead to a 2-3% contraction in terms of GDP, then you must accept the fact that the Bush tax cuts are providing an extra 2-3% bump in the GDP, so tell me something Bill, have you ever seen an economy go up by 2-3% without creating any jobs?