You guys are arguing over nothing that will make a difference. The fact is, taxes are going up for the top 2% of earners. If you earn less than 200k per then your capital gains tax will not go up.
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I'm single, remember? So the threshold is 200K.
I haven't decided yet.
If they go through with this tax hike I might shoot for the earned income credit scam instead.
Quote from Max E. Pad:
If all of you guys on the left think that the key to prosperity is raising tax rates to clinton levels, then why dont we go to CLINTON LEVELS FOR SPENDING, Id be more than willing to go to clinton level taxes, if we also go to clinton level spending.
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TO HIT CLINTON SPENDING LEVELS, OBAMA WOULD HAVE TO CUT 37% FROM BUDGET
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The White House has proclaimed for all to hear that the Bill Clinton tax rates created magical years of prosperity. By the same token, they donât actually want to return to the Clinton tax rates for those earning less than $250,000 per year. But they ignore the biggest fact of all: Bill Clinton never spent like Barack Obama.
Adjusted for inflation, Clinton spent $2.24 trillion in 1993; that level stayed relatively stagnant, rising to $2.41 trillion in 2001.
Now letâs look at Obamaâs budgets starting this year: $3.8 trillion. By the time we hit 2022 under Obamaâs plan, weâll be spending $4.77 trillion. That means that Obama is spending twice what Clinton did.
Thatâs why no Democrat will ever agree to go back to Clinton-era spending. If they did, theyâd have to agree not to $1.2 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years, but to $1.4 trillion in spending cuts this year alone. Thatâs 37% of the federal budget.
Quote from mrbill:
Since we're gong back to the Clinton years, then jumping to the Obama years, maybe we should add those middle 8 years and the fall out. I know you all hate hearing about blaming Bush, but if the shoe fits.
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Very good point, we'd have to get out of some wars, and cut back foreign aid, and I'm all for that.
Quote from Max E. Pad:
WTF are you talking about?!?!
Obama has made his entire campaign speech about going back to the clinton years, with his tax rates, so that prosperity will hopefully ensue.
So If Obama is cheering for the prosperity in the clinton years, then he should also go back to clinton spending, only a drunk jackass would think taxes spur economic growth.
WHO DO YOU HEAR WANTING TO GO BACK TO THE BUSH YEARS???
Grow up.
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Now, come on. Has anything changed in the last 14 years? War spending, population, economy, import exports. Hell, let's go back to 1880 spending when the population was miniscule compared to today. 20% or more of all jobs lost forever due to technology. As in trading, we need to compare apples to apples, not just dollars to dollars.
And, no need for CAPS, no one wants to go back to the Bush years, we're still trying to get out of them.
And I never said taxes lead to economic growth, nor have tax cuts proven to do so. The Bush tax cuts have not produced anything.
Economic growth comes only from Demand, if we have demand, we increase supply, and the beat goes on.
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And I never said taxes lead to economic growth, nor have tax cuts proven to do so. The Bush tax cuts have not produced anything.