I hear you... I had to join Teamsters for a summer job when I was in school and my grandfather (who became a Reagan Democrat) was a union president long ago. But I think you'd have to concede that unions ain't what they used to be and in part have been perverted into a money laundering machine for demrats.
And More Winning! Supreme Court deals blow to unions, rules against forced fees for government worke
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There is no doubt that they're not what they used to be. More corruption and much more politically active, but none the less, you take the pay and benefits, that's the game you sign up for. The law is the law, but it doesn't really seem right to me.
"Unions argue that forced union dues are necessary because without them public employees “free ride” on union services. They further argue that since unions must represent members and non-members fairly and equally, non-members should pay for services unions provide like contract negotiation and representation in grievances.
The conundrum, of course, is that workers who are non-members should not be forced to work under a union contract and should be able to represent themselves or seek other counsel in grievances procedures. Yet, current state law does not allow these freedoms.
The obvious solution is to free unions and non-members from this forced relationship. Workers Choice essentially creates members-only unions. Only full-fledged union members work under a union-negotiated collective bargaining agreement and receive union services.
Workers that choose not to become members are free to negotiate their own work conditions with the state employer. This resolves the “free-rider” problem and gives workers total freedom over how they are represented.
With forced union dues off the table, hopefully unions can join with free-market advocates to implement Workers Choice across the country. It’s a win-win system where both workers and unions are better off.
Unions only represent workers who voluntarily pay for their services. Workers gain absolute freedom of association at the workplace."
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...for-government-workers-and-all-americans.html
The conundrum, of course, is that workers who are non-members should not be forced to work under a union contract and should be able to represent themselves or seek other counsel in grievances procedures. Yet, current state law does not allow these freedoms.
The obvious solution is to free unions and non-members from this forced relationship. Workers Choice essentially creates members-only unions. Only full-fledged union members work under a union-negotiated collective bargaining agreement and receive union services.
Workers that choose not to become members are free to negotiate their own work conditions with the state employer. This resolves the “free-rider” problem and gives workers total freedom over how they are represented.
With forced union dues off the table, hopefully unions can join with free-market advocates to implement Workers Choice across the country. It’s a win-win system where both workers and unions are better off.
Unions only represent workers who voluntarily pay for their services. Workers gain absolute freedom of association at the workplace."
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...for-government-workers-and-all-americans.html
It’s a good analogy. Money and benefits are the “condition” for the service received by the free riders in this case. Thy receive all the benefits of union membership without any of the costs.
To the larger point, and not directly in response to you, of how this will impact workers, prevailing wage and union negotiated salaries set an important bar for the private sector to pay their employees and contractors.
This ruling is pretty much a death knell for unions in this country as the conditions stand currently. Correlation does not always mean causation but as union membership has declined over the decades, middle class workers salaries have stagnated. The popular theory is there is a lot less wage pressures put on businesses to pay individuals when workers don’t band together for collective bargaining.
Anyway, this is a major blow if you’re a tradesman or blue collar worker. Your wages are pretty much going to get stuck from here out.
Biggest losers in this will be loca law enforcement in the long run. They are some of the biggest salaried and pensioners unions have going, and they will be ripe for the picking once many of them opt out.
A union isn't a government. The benefits from being in the union aren't the pay and benefits. Those come from the entity paying the union employee. The union, arguably, negotiates those salaries with the business entity, but only because employees in some states cannot even work in a given industry unless they are involved in a union.
The Democratic Party has clearly abandoned the working middle class voter. They don't want them any more. By purpose and design.
Hell, outside of the public sector and service industry unions the remaining private sector union membership went big time for Trump in 2016 - in fact, it very well may have gotten Trump elected in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. Trump came within a whisker of winning Minnesota for Christ's sake. From a political perspective that is mind numbing.
Since 2015 the private sector union leadership (especially auto, manufacturing, and trades) has been warning Democratic Leadership that they were losing membership votes. They foretold Democratic Leadership that they could count on $$ but not on the membership votes. I would lay odds that in 2020 you will see private sector unions supporting Trump with the $$ as well.
Reuters reporting Kennedy is gonna retire.
That will seal the deal on a conservative court.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/anthony-kennedy-retire-supreme-court.html
That will seal the deal on a conservative court.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/anthony-kennedy-retire-supreme-court.html
Holy shit. Heads are going to explode. The internet is melting down.
There does appear to be benefits for voting for winners like Trump. As a bonus, the triggering of the Radical Left has resulted in them "exposing" their agenda in full public view.