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I'm not sure I agree with this ruling. If a person is receiving the same exact pay and benefits of those co-workers which are in the union, then that person should pay the same union dues. If he is not receiving the same pay and benefits, then that's a different story.
This ruling would be akin to me saying I don't like what the government does with my tax dollars, so I should not have to pay taxes. I live in a very democratic county in a very republican state, Indiana. If someone in this county were to feel that they weren't getting what they considered proper representation by the state, why should they have to pay state taxes?

I was briefly Union member once in California. We made only slightly more than miminum wage, had to pay for our own uniforms, and donated our time to be trained in the union office. I suspect when contract negotiations between the union and the company took place, it really was a matter of union officials getting a little extra side money from the company before they would recommend union members vote in favor of a token wage or benefit change. The union dues where not cheap, especially given the low wages and limited benefits.

I have heard other cases where the union was strong, too strong in fact, and as a result caused the company to be not competative. This ultimately led to loss of jobs.

Many large companies certainly use unscrupulous tactics on workers. We have seen labor price fixing schemes recently in Sillicon Valley, for example. This is why it is critical that business regulation not get out of hand so small businesses will be remain a viable source of employment and innovation. This will help provide competition for labor against these large companies. In a free market system, resources are most effectively allocated to the lowest cost producer. When it come to labor, the lowest cost is not necessarily the lowest price. A particularly productive employee can command a premium wage when there are many employment alternatives for him. In addition, the ability to make a premium wage encourages greater worker productivity.

Few people outside business and too many inside business really appreciate the power of the free market system. When a large business attempts to gain an advantage by interfering with the free market, they are undermining our system as either compensation for management weakness or for greed. This is one area, maintaining free markets, where effective government policy can be a overall net positive on our capitalistic system.
 
Its bad enough a person is forced to pay income taxes. I find that unconstitutional. Especially when a private central bank creates money and loans it to our govt.
But, in that case at least the money goes to the govt... which you could argue is part of the social contract we make for govt.

But, its pre fascist that we are forced to pay money to health insurance companies or unions.
This was a very good decision. A good step back from fascism.

If the union is useful it will get people to pay it money. Just like every other business or charity or non govt type entity. If it can't find enough people to fund it voluntarily... its not needed.

For lefties... this was an anti slavery, pro human rights decision. For righties this is pro liberty, pro first amendment, pro freedom of speech and in a way anti big govt.

By the way I am pro private sectors unions... just against compulsory dues and public sector unions.
 
If a person is receiving the same exact pay and benefits of those co-workers which are in the union, then that person should pay the same union dues. If he is not receiving the same pay and benefits, then that's a different story.

So under your theory, you shouldn't object to paying the mafia protection money if you get the same protection as everyone else.
 
So under your theory, you shouldn't object to paying the mafia protection money if you get the same protection as everyone else.
I doubt the mob would provide protection to people who aren't paying for it. They may however, provide reasons to pay for protection in the future.:wtf:
 
In high school I once saw my favorite pizza guy back east getting the shake down. It was uncomfortable when I walked in.

He reached over the counter and punched the guy the face.... hard
Short Italian guy who went to the gym a lot. He crushed him.

After the guy left... the pizza guy... was visible shaking. So much adrenline.
He gave me a free slice.

His relative who also worked there said something like he did not leave Italy to get shaken down by the mafia. It was probably the ballsiest thing I ever saw in real life. Looking back I am lucky the mafia did not believe in harming kids.

I doubt the mob would provide protection to people who aren't paying for it. They may however, provide reasons to pay for protection in the future.:wtf:
 
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