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Quote from 377OHMS:

Your posts are weak and mostly monosybillic. I would put you on ignore but you are harmless so it is not necessary. Same for Sammy. You have alot in common with Sammy.

Prison guards aren't a very intelligent set of people and you exhibit that for all. You weren't able have an actual career so you settled for guarding scum. After enough contact with the scum you assumed many of their traits. You are indistinguishable from those you guarded Ricter.
Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.
 
Yet you aren't in favor of a free and fair vote to secede from the Union. Funny how the US regime is in favor of secession in Sudan, but the slightest hint of secession in the USA is attacked at "treason".

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Do we want free and fair elections in America, where a right wing undereducated kook like Sarah Palin could become president?

Yes, unfortunately.

And yes, we should all want free and fair elections in Egypt, even if they vote in the wrong party. The process is going to work itself out over time, and trying to load the deck against the will of the people has been proven not to work in the long run in nearly every situation.
 
That's very true in many cases. Many law enforcement personnel are scum. People who actively seek authority and have an intrinsic desire for power are indeed scum.

Quote from 377OHMS:



Prison guards aren't a very intelligent set of people and you exhibit that for all. You weren't able have an actual career so you settled for guarding scum. After enough contact with the scum you assumed many of their traits. You are indistinguishable from those you guarded Ricter.
 
Quote from phenomena:

That's very true in many cases. Many law enforcement personnel are scum. People who actively seek authority and have an intrinsic desire for power are indeed scum.

Out here in Cali the prison guard unions actually lobby in Sacramento for longer prison terms to enhance their gig. They deliberately understaff the prisons so the guards can get massive overtime.

Ricter may even be laughing at my posts because with overtime, pension and various allowances he probably made as much money as I have (ok, not bloody likely :D). Its a clear indication of the problem with unions and the prison guard and teachers unions are the worst of all.

A guy sits in prison here for simple marijuana possession and the guards bilk the state taxpayers out of millions to guard him. Its a racket and should literally be subject to racketeering laws.
 
Yeah, I hear they just desegregated LA County jail. Will be interesting to see how that pans out. It was remarkably safe given the inmates who were kept there. Will be interesting to see how these measures affect the safety of the facility.

Quote from 377OHMS:

Out here in Cali the prison guard unions actually lobby in Sacramento for longer prison terms to enhance their gig. They deliberately understaff the prisons so the guards can get massive overtime.

Ricter may even be laughing at my posts because with overtime, pension and various allowances he probably made as much money as I have (ok, not bloody likely :D). Its a clear indication of the problem with unions and the prison guard and teachers unions are the worst of all.

A guy sits in prison here for simple marijuana possession and the guards bilk the state taxpayers out of millions to guard him. Its a racket and should literally be subject to racketeering laws.
 
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Quote from OPTIONAL777:


And yes, we should all want free and fair elections in Egypt, even if they vote in the wrong party. The process is going to work itself out over time, and trying to load the deck against the will of the people has been proven not to work in the long run in nearly every situation.

So it's a good thing that no one rigged the elections against Hitler in 1933, and the German people were allowed to 'work out the process over time'?

This is somewhat of a devil's advocate type argument, since I do recognize the value of democracy. However, free and fair elections can be very risky in certain specific situations.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

So it's a good thing that no one rigged the elections against Hitler in 1933, and the German people were allowed to 'work out the process over time'?

This is somewhat of a devil's advocate type argument, since I do recognize the value of democracy. However, free and fair elections can be very risky in certain specific situations.

You make an excellent point. Freedom and security are in "dynamic tension". Sometimes freedom gets too much... freedom.

; )
 
Yes, actually in the long run, it is good that we don't get involved in the elections of other countries.

If it is a good thing, then it would be good when China has the power to rig our elections in their best interest, right?

Is this to say that Hitler's rise to power was a good thing? Of course not, but unless we as a national favor another nation dictating our course of events...then we really have no business dictating the course of events of other nations.

This is where your logic fails repeatedly, simply because the self righteous are certain they are right to influence the lives of others, but can't stand it when someone tries to do the same to them.

Golden rule...

Like I've said before, as much as I think someone like Sarah Palin would destroy our country, even Ron Paul would send us back to the stone ages, I don't think that some outside force should rig our elections simply because they think it would be in their best interests to do so.

Free and fair, means just that.

I also find it odd that so called libertarians would even think of rigging the elections of other countries...as if it were their business to do so?


Quote from Rearden Metal:

So it's a good thing that no one rigged the elections against Hitler in 1933, and the German people were allowed to 'work out the process over time'?

This is somewhat of a devil's advocate type argument, since I do recognize the value of democracy. However, free and fair elections can be very risky in certain specific situations.
 
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