An American Hero
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Actually, I don't drink, batshitgirl.
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I guess you'd like to join up, huh batshitgirl? All those big Marines would probably do it for you.
You've just been hammered into the ground again, revealed as a liar for claiming that you're a patriot and simultaneously admitting that you would desert if called up right now. Time to put your hair in curlers and retire for the night.
Maybe you should just stick to squids. That's an area where you can just prattle on without doing much harm. We'll just stop by every once in a while and laugh at you, wallowing in the muck with the other ET nutbags.
well.. whats wrong? i sense some pent up frustration..... boy troubles? come on .. you can tell ole ratty. did you get dumped again? awwwwwwwww... rejection sucks doesn't it. sucks to be you.
i don't normally do this but i know you are hurting tonight. lets call off the insults and please accept this little gift from me to you. just a little something to cheer you up.... put a smile on your face and give you some hope, there is some boy out there just waiting for you:
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I'm not sure why dozens of posts went by without anyone pointing this out, but do you know <b>what kinds of acts the Nuremberg war criminals were accused of committing?</b> None of them were charged with the simple act of 'being deployed to occupied territory', I can assure you.
You know how Lt. Watada <b>could</b> have made himself into a hero? By deploying to Iraq as ordered and carefully supervising the troops under his command, making sure his men respect the human rights of all the locals they come into contact with, while working hard out in the field to avert the next Haditha massacre from taking place.
Now <b>that</b> would have been heroic. Heroism takes hard work. Sitting on your ass and refusing to work just doesn't cut it as 'heroism' in my book.
As a Hawaii resident and long-time follower of the local political scene, I (unfortunately) can almost guarantee you that, once he has served his sentence, Watada will run for local office and will be elected to the State Legislature.
Locals in the know - including die-hard liberals - believe that this reeks of political ambition.
You are definitely entitled to your opinion however you must remember that once Watada voluntarily raised his hand he loses the right to have an opinion on war. This is why it is called a sacrifice. I did 12 yrs in the military. Served in the Army and Navy. Peace time and in combat. It killed me at times to have to bite my tongue and do the job I had to do. But if my family and the rest of the U.S. deserves its freedom then small people like me have to volunteer to make it happen.
Bottom line: I don't want medals or anything like that I do want my freedom and I am willing to fight for it. Watada became a criminal by his choice so whether he rots in prison or gets the firing squad should not matter to anybody. He is a coward trying to act like a hero.
OldTrader: what group were you with? I was with 1st SOCOM at Ft Bragg
Bingo!
"Sitting on your ass and refusing to work just doesn't cut it as 'heroism' in my book."
Yes, you have your own book which you read and write in.
Ali was attacked for refusing military induction, called every name in the book.
Some continue to view him that way, others view his refusal to fight in the Vietnam war as heroic.
Some view his boxing as barbaric, other view his boxing skills and championships as heroic.
Some viewed his willingness to speak his mind in the 60's as just some "loud mouthed "nigger" who should keep his damn mouth shut" and others viewed him as a hero.
There are many "books" in a democratic society."
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If your "book" misses the point of the analogy of Nuremberg, then you miss that point of rationalizing behavior that you think, feel, and believe is wrong with the justification of simply "following orders."
When we have a military who thinks that they are charged with blindly following a president, without any thinking process, then we have a robotic military who serves the favor of the president, not the intention of the constitution.
The Framers in no way intended for one single man to wield that type of power, especially military power, as they had a firm knowledge of history where the military became simply a tool for the ambition of a dictatorial leader.
That our wimpy congressional branch did not hold the executive branch's feet to the fire before this war is their failure to serve the will of the Framers, electing instead to act in a manner to preserve their jobs when viewing the electorates knee jerk reaction to 9/11.
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Gandhi sat and did little but spin cotton on a spinning wheel and resist the British authority in a non violent manner, was that bravery?
In your "book" apparently not...
Yes, you have your own book which you read and write in.
Ali was attacked for refusing military induction, called every name in the book.
Some continue to view him that way, others view his refusal to fight in the Vietnam war as heroic.
Some view his boxing as barbaric, other view his boxing skills and championships as heroic.
Some viewed his willingness to speak his mind in the 60's as just some "loud mouthed "nigger" who should keep his damn mouth shut" and others viewed him as a hero.
There are many "books" in a democratic society."
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If your "book" misses the point of the analogy of Nuremberg, then you miss that point of rationalizing behavior that you think, feel, and believe is wrong with the justification of simply "following orders."
When we have a military who thinks that they are charged with blindly following a president, without any thinking process, then we have a robotic military who serves the favor of the president, not the intention of the constitution.
The Framers in no way intended for one single man to wield that type of power, especially military power, as they had a firm knowledge of history where the military became simply a tool for the ambition of a dictatorial leader.
That our wimpy congressional branch did not hold the executive branch's feet to the fire before this war is their failure to serve the will of the Framers, electing instead to act in a manner to preserve their jobs when viewing the electorates knee jerk reaction to 9/11.
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Gandhi sat and did little but spin cotton on a spinning wheel and resist the British authority in a non violent manner, was that bravery?
In your "book" apparently not...