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Quote from TGregg:

Uhm, lemme get this straight. Shortly after the President goes on Nationwide TV and gives a massively public speech about how we need to stay the course in Iraq, you and Reardon are ready to buy into the idea he's letting the country fall back into Saddam's henchman's hands?

Are you guys high? That would mean the end of the Republican party, among other huge problems. Now I know that's what some of y'all want, but expecting Bush to put a gun to his head and pull the trigger is a bit unreasonable, don't ya think?
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Now you know it's true. Don't worry, the Republican party is far from finished. We have a two-party system, and the other one is just as bad.
 
previous attempts were made to convince Mr. Qassem Salam, the highest ranking Baath party official outside of Iraq (Yemen) to act as a mediator with the Sunni and Baathi resistance leaders. Mr. Salam informed the Americans that the person they need to get in touch with is the real leader of the Baath party and the one who has real influence on the Sunni tribes....Mr. Saddam Husain.

Other attempts were made to entice Shiek Sattam Al Qa'oud, one of the heads of the biggest tribes (Dilimi) who is being held as a prisoner, by promising him freedom if he managed to coordinate a meeting between them and Izzat Ibrahim...Sheik Al Qa'oud refused and refered them to the same person Mr. salam refered them to.

Again, it is up to all of you to call what I write as a hogwash but you will soon hear about all of that in all of the media outlets.
 
Oh, Madison, that is beautiful!

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Quote from Madison:



yeah, that's nuts.

it'd be like.... like shouting and ranting about anthrax and unmanned transatlantic drones and nuclear mushroom clouds without having any evidence at all

or... like cooking up story about a celebrity soldier being shot by "terrorists" despite knowledge it was friendly fire

or.... using a US tank to pull down a statue, then using the staged photographs in campaign ads as a sign of iraqi revolutionary sentiment

or... like making up a story about a 95lb girl fighting off dozens of iraqi savages singlehandedly, then claiming she has amnesia

or... like putting a 50m wide color sign on an aircraft carrier, then saying that the yeomen on board did it, just as a prank, you know

or.... like chest-thumping at every opportunity to shout a love of "the troops," then cutting their benefits and denying their discharge on the contracted dates

or.... like spending half a trillion dollars to bring "freedom" to foreigners, then fining broadcasters for engaging in disapproved speech in the US and fighting for the power to jail US citizens indefinitely without due process

..... yeah, they'd be nuts to say stuff like that, they'd look like fools.
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Hehe, AAA, love the way you blame it all on Clinton. You are a sore loser.

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Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I would have said this was total BS but then I read an article yesterday that described how proud the US military was of the "nuanced" manner in which they had handled the notorious al Sadr, the young thug who made monkeys of them for months, murdered opponents and now is part of the government. Basically the general in charge thought it was smart not to win a decisive victory over al Sadr but instead let him run free to cause more trouble. I am convinced that 8 years of Clinton so infused the upper ranks of the officer corps with a deadly infection of PC virus that anything is possible.
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Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You forget the senior officers were promoted during his term. We know the Pentagon became highly politicizied and PC'd. Competent officers were hounded out of the service and craven opportunists like Wesley Clark and McCafferty got the juicy slots.
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This is true. Now the Pentagon has been completely de-politicized, guffaw guffaw.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Now you know it's true. Don't worry, the Republican party is far from finished. We have a two-party system, and the other one is just as bad.
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Ain't happening, the USA is not gonna trade Iraq for half a dozen bases for 5 years. Geez RH, I thought you were smarter than Wallyworld & Co.

Now if the Sunnis (Sunnies?) or any other group of the terrorists decide to give up and join the government, it's likely they could win some concessions of one kind or another. But a complete withdrawal from Iraq? Not possible unless they all surrendered. And since there's no central C&C structure for each and every terrorist, that is not possible.

Watch and see. On Tuesday it will be war as usual, just like I've been saying all along.
 
Wael,

You're grasping straws. Now that we have Iraq's oil fields, do you really believe we are trying to cut a deal with Saddam, the Baath party, or the Islamists?

Bush's speech turned this page, pal. No more cow-towing to Arab tribes and Islamists.

We got the oil, and we're pushing for democracy in Iraq. You can blame bin Laden for all of this, since he gave us the 9/11 political chips to pull it off. Good one, OBL, hehe.

Most Iraqis want democracy. This scares the scull-caps off of the Islamists. Perhaps that's why they are busy killing Iraqis. Muslims killing Muslims. How pathetic.

Quote from WAEL012000:

previous attempts were made to convince Mr. Qassem Salam, the highest ranking Baath party official outside of Iraq (Yemen) to act as a mediator with the Sunni and Baathi resistance leaders. Mr. Salam informed the Americans that the person they need to get in touch with is the real leader of the Baath party and the one who has real influence on the Sunni tribes....Mr. Saddam Husain.

Other attempts were made to entice Shiek Sattam Al Qa'oud, one of the heads of the biggest tribes (Dilimi) who is being held as a prisoner, by promising him freedom if he managed to coordinate a meeting between them and Izzat Ibrahim...Sheik Al Qa'oud refused and refered them to the same person Mr. salam refered them to.

Again, it is up to all of you to call what I write as a hogwash but you will soon hear about all of that in all of the media outlets.
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Quote from TGregg:

Ain't happening, the USA is not gonna trade Iraq for half a dozen bases for 5 years. Geez RH, I thought you were smarter than Wallyworld & Co.

Now if the Sunnis (Sunnies?) or any other group of the terrorists decide to give up and join the government, it's likely they could win some concessions of one kind or another. But a complete withdrawal from Iraq? Not possible unless they all surrendered. And since there's no central C&C structure for each and every terrorist, that is not possible.

Watch and see. On Tuesday it will be war as usual, just like I've been saying all along.
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I never said a peace deal would be good for the long term. You & I know the value of a peace treaty signed by a Muslim.

Wael reported that negotioations were taking place, I looked into it and agreed with him, and now the facts show that we were correct. That's all.
 
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