All Atheist's End up In Hell

[Good1]

My brain has been eating thought experiments like this for years.

We can simplify it with the universe itself. God is such a lame backstory to these experiments, we shove Him into a corner.

It involves the basic concepts of the line segment, line, and ray from maths.

The universe, in our three-dimensional thinking, is in one of three states.

It has a beginning and end (line segment), a beginning with no end (ray), or no beginning or end (line).

In none of these three states can a creator exist, because in each of these three states it will either negate it's existence (line segment and ray), or negate the existence of the idea of a creator (line).

I am proposing that the domain of faith comprises the entire domain of imagination. Within this domain arises a new set of "laws" that generally predict how the smallest of particles will behave. It gets blurry: Is it a wave of light, or, is it a particle. Is it a particle, or a wave of light? How much of that depends on the observer?

I'm saying this domain ("the world", "hell") is vast enough that anyone who does not have full and total knowledge could easily get "lost". I propose that math, and the laws of physics, are entirely part of the domain of faith/imagination, and are utterly foreign concepts in the domain of knowledge/Christ.

So you have to be careful about thought experiments that start and stop within this domain, and don't have any reach beyond the domain. Better to focus on the concept of mutually exclusive existence by considering conditions that cannot coexist, like:

Life/death
Knowledge/Faith
Oneness/Particles (partitions, separations, unique identity, inequality)

The conflation between knowledge and faith is really a stickler for most people. You can't even be a person without having first confused the difference between the two. So we have to be very careful about observing phenomenon that arises out of faith, and presuming we can derive some kind of knowledge from it. As people, we are biased toward further conflation, because deep down, we realize knowledge threatens our perceived existence as a unique being.

 

[Good1]

@studentofthemarkets This video is about two hours, but worthy of your time. And you also @Good1 I think you will like it. Yer the one that made me remember it.

Whenever i might have two hours to spare for a scientist.

Science is basically the observation of faith-based phenomenon, attempting to derive knowledge from the observation of persistent, repeating phenomena.

But the phenomena generated by faith is vast. You really have to be humble, and psychologically honest to rise above the biases of human beings, even should we become a "scientist".

 

[Overnight]

...
As people, we are biased toward further conflation, because deep down, we realize knowledge threatens our perceived existence as a unique being.

YES! Someone finally gets a bit about what I'm on about! The more we know about our true nature, the more afraid of ourselves we become, because it seems self-defeating!

 

[Good1]

@studentofthemarkets This video is about two hours, but worthy of your time. And you also @Good1 I think you will like it. Yer the one that made me remember it.

For example, a tree, a rock, a mountain, a planet, a star, and galaxy, a worm hole. These are faith-based phenomena. We can observe them, study them, run experiments and see if some phenomena repeats. Then we can get a degree and call that knowledge. But it remains the observation of relatively reliably repeating phenomena. Some of that phenomena changes quickly. Other phenomena changes ever so slowly. 2 + 2 = 4 is a phenomena that has been reliable, and with this observation we can make weapons and win wars. Math is changing slowly enough we cannot observe how it came about, and how it will pass away (keep changing).

We have to be careful about the claim to "know" anything. People are as close to faith as our bodies are to food. Without food, like, a constant supply, we would "die". Likewise, if we replace faith with a diet of knowledge, we would cease and desist to have the experience of a unique being.

 

[Overnight]

...2 + 2 = 4 is a phenomena that has been reliable, and with this observation we can make weapons and win wars..

Just wanted to mention that that video, while seemingly is science-based, is attempting to answer existential questions.

2+2=4 is a rigid structure we have formulated as humans, because it works only in base 10 math up to a point. Try it in any other base with our base 10 number system, and it does not work.

 

[Good1]

YES! Someone finally gets a bit about what I'm on about! The more we know about our true nature, the more afraid of ourselves we become, because it seems self-defeating!

It's comparable to movies. All of the drama contained in movies is only possible due to a lack of knowledge. You answer the phone, for example, and say, "Hello?", because you don't know whose calling, or what they want. Drama, and knowledge, cannot coexist. This is why, when we are interested in seeing a movie, we don't want anyone to tell us the ending. That's called a "spoiler" and you are supposed to give a "spoiler alert" if you are planning on telling someone the end of a movie before they go. It's because you cannot participate, even vicariously, in the drama, if you "know" how it already ends.

Similar in the domain of faith, and it's phenomena. It boils down to drama.

 

[Good1]

Just wanted to mention that that video, while seemingly is science-based, is attempting to answer existential questions.

2+2=4 is a rigid structure we have formulated as humans, because it works only in base 10 math. Try it in any other base, and it does not work.

Interesting. As one more thought experiment, i would challenge anyone to observe any phenomena, and think how it can be weaponized. I suggest that anything that faith produces can be weaponized:

A tree, for example, can be weaponized. Cut it up into lumber. Criss-cross beams, and nail somebody to the beams. Or make firewood and burn something down. Make spears and arrows...

Air. Air can be weaponized.

Stars. Sunlight can be weaponized.

Food. Food can be weaponized.

Water...

Gravity...

Math...

Sex...

This is really the common theme in the domain of faith (hell).
Anything that is "good", can also be dangerous ("evil").

I suggest faith itself functions as weapon against knowledge.

 

[maxinger]

Will anti-atheist (those who are filled with hatred) also end up in hell?


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[studentofthemarkets]

@studentofthemarkets This video is about two hours, but worthy of your time. And you also @Good1 I think you will like it. Yer the one that made me remember it.

OK. You watched the last video I posted (that one was only 4 minutes) so I'll watch this tomorrow.

 

[ph1l]

2+2=4 is a rigid structure we have formulated as humans, because it works only in base 10 math up to a point. Try it in any other base with our base 10 number system, and it does not work.

With my favorite calculator,

$ dc
5 o 5 i
2 2 + f
4

So, 2 +2 = 4 in base 5 (and greater bases too)!

For a post like that, you deserve