Again man...Sorry but I cannot see you being that smart!!!
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Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."
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Again man...Sorry but I cannot see you being that smart!!!
wael,
it takes a lot of guts to do what you do. keep it up. you're on the ball. the silent majority are sick of the zionazis but they don't speak up.
one thing i would suggest is that instead of personally replying to these zionists, it's better you address their lies.
by responding to them, you make it look like they matter as if they are important they don't matter at all.
just stick to pointing out their lies so others can learn from your posts.
dogs bark. barking back only puts you at their level.
on a side note, in the past, palestinians were divided bcos of tribalism. today we see unity. it's only a matter of time that zionist israel joins nazi germany. look at germany. imagine what a non-zionist israel can achieve?
it's also important to understand that only small percentage of Palestinian land was paid for so israel does have the right ot exist - just not with the borders of today and ofcourse without the WMD.
these european jews have no idea about their history with arabs. they think they can only live in an anti-muslim/arab zionis state. the truth of the matter is that zionism is the cause of hatred against israel.
these people will not always to listen non-jews. (only a jew understand a jews)in which case, they should be re-directed to websites like torahjews and nkusa.org, jewsagainstzionism, etc.
again keeping in mind, i am referring to non-israeli jews. as you know, in isreal, it's safer to be an anti-arab then neutral. you just might become a left wing liberal outcast.
finally, there will always be those like our resident AIPAC member and his ilk. Haters exist in all societies and religion. they are a reminder that intelligent people can also (intentionally or unintentionally) be brainwashed.
it takes a lot of guts to do what you do. keep it up. you're on the ball. the silent majority are sick of the zionazis but they don't speak up.
one thing i would suggest is that instead of personally replying to these zionists, it's better you address their lies.
by responding to them, you make it look like they matter as if they are important they don't matter at all.
just stick to pointing out their lies so others can learn from your posts.
dogs bark. barking back only puts you at their level.
on a side note, in the past, palestinians were divided bcos of tribalism. today we see unity. it's only a matter of time that zionist israel joins nazi germany. look at germany. imagine what a non-zionist israel can achieve?
it's also important to understand that only small percentage of Palestinian land was paid for so israel does have the right ot exist - just not with the borders of today and ofcourse without the WMD.
these european jews have no idea about their history with arabs. they think they can only live in an anti-muslim/arab zionis state. the truth of the matter is that zionism is the cause of hatred against israel.
these people will not always to listen non-jews. (only a jew understand a jews)in which case, they should be re-directed to websites like torahjews and nkusa.org, jewsagainstzionism, etc.
again keeping in mind, i am referring to non-israeli jews. as you know, in isreal, it's safer to be an anti-arab then neutral. you just might become a left wing liberal outcast.
finally, there will always be those like our resident AIPAC member and his ilk. Haters exist in all societies and religion. they are a reminder that intelligent people can also (intentionally or unintentionally) be brainwashed.
Thank you loanfinder for the word of support. one thing that gives me momentum is dddooo and other's barking. The vast majority of people in this country are not aware of the danger zionism pose on us and on world peace.
Since when are you and your ilk interested in the world peace when the only thing you're truly interested in is a one state solution with no jewish state in the middle east.Quote from WAEL012000:
... and on world peace.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has urged Muslim countries to boycott a planned US-sponsored Middle East peace
Syria Will Not Participate in Annapolis Conference
Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have not said whether they will attend
the head of the Hamas government in Gaza urged Saudi Arabia and Egypt not to attend the conference
In all fairness Abbas is willing to participate in the conference even though PA Stiffens Demands.. But then again, Abbas's willingness to engage in peace negotiations with Israel is exactly why you hate him, isn't it? If peace ever breaks out between the Israelis and Palestinians you and your ilk will have to be put on suicide watch.
to some extent, i have to agree with Mr AIPAC.i do empathize with those who hate israel and america but i do not sympathize.
The reason being, just like the zionists, nazis and neo-cons, those who hate will always generalize. those who hate blame the religion or people when they should be blaming organisations/governments/instuitions and (so called) religious leaders.
although hamas, hezbollah, etc were created in response top israeli/US terrorism, it was more of a knee jerk reaction that has become permanent.
having said that Wael, yes there are many people who do not understand the danger of zionism. even mosts of the zionists who live in israel do not understand the trap they are in. then again, the neo-cons do not understand the danger of zionist christians.
so what do you do? very simple. educate. do not hate. maintain composure. try to understand the mindset of the average supporter of jewish zionism.
like i said, most jews who migrated to israel are european jews. they do not have a history with arabs and are not aware of their arab/jewish history.
they are brainwashed from day one about how the world is against tehm and they are facing another holocaust unless they support zionism.
we hear the same rhetoric in the west about the danger of arabs/muslims and it's important to kill people in the middle east lest they bring the war home.
put yourself in their situation. all they know is that if they do not support or fight for israel, they will face another holocaust.
the solution to this is to reach out to zionists and educate them about their history with arabs and muslims. especially their history in islamic spain.
how many jews or people know that the 2nd largest jewish population is in iran and the openly declare that israel does not speak on their behalf. jews in morrocco, egypt, tunisia, algerai prefer to stay where they are rather than take teh $30k offer and move to israel.
these jews are aware of the past. we need to get in touch with them so they can wield some influence on their israeli brethrens.
it will take time. we need to separate judaism from zionism. we need to engage in dialogues even with the hardcore zionists.
let them believe in their ideology but also present them with facts (with dignity and respect).
it is imperative that they understand that they face no threat. that they have a history/place in the middle east. always have, always will. they have the right to be in in the middle east. just not at the expense of the Palestinians.
the powers that be propagate that jews cannot live without zionism. that israel cannot exist with zionism. that arabs and muslims will destroy their temple. that removing zionism is the same as removing israel.
reality is that when ever muslims took control of al-quds/jerusalem, they forgave their enemies and offered them a peace treaty. the holy land was not filled with checkpoints and there was no restriction on jews and christians. in fact, they were protected from their own.
educate, educate, educate. you are right when u say that very few people know the situation. however, most people do know that there are 2 sides to every story and the constant garbage spewed by the media and the government is just plain scare mongering.
just like most people believe that bush lied about 9/11. don't know about what but they still know that they have been lied to.
if they believe they have been lied by bush, do you honestly think they believe the propaganda about israel?
even 40% of israeli jews (brainwashed) OPPOSE the wall. why? bcos, intuitively, they know it's wrong.
it's also interesting to note that these brainwashed jews are sick of going overseas only to be treated with contempt when they show their israeli passport.
they also want ot visit the no-go zones like the west bank and gaza strip. in fact, some of them would like to travel the middle east and share a cup of coffee with their arab cousins.
how do i know this? one of my friends visited palestine and israel to give a speech. he was there to talk about the history of arabs and jews. he got the above feedback after the lecture. his thesis is focused on the arab/esraeli conflict:
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a779566421~db=all~jumptype=rss
we just need to be patient and reach out to these people. educate them. also, it's important to educate the arabs. they think that jews control the world. i would say jews have a strong influence in this world but ultimately, god controls the world.
no empire/civilization ever had a monopoly. prepare for a shift in power. in the mean time, get out there and educate with patience.
become a pro-jewish anti-zionist. don't hate the people. if anything, point the lies of their government. this applies not just to israel but also the US and UK.
people are sheep. we know that. so why blame them? they're only concerned about the safety of their own and that of their family.
inallaha maa sabhereen.
The reason being, just like the zionists, nazis and neo-cons, those who hate will always generalize. those who hate blame the religion or people when they should be blaming organisations/governments/instuitions and (so called) religious leaders.
although hamas, hezbollah, etc were created in response top israeli/US terrorism, it was more of a knee jerk reaction that has become permanent.
having said that Wael, yes there are many people who do not understand the danger of zionism. even mosts of the zionists who live in israel do not understand the trap they are in. then again, the neo-cons do not understand the danger of zionist christians.
so what do you do? very simple. educate. do not hate. maintain composure. try to understand the mindset of the average supporter of jewish zionism.
like i said, most jews who migrated to israel are european jews. they do not have a history with arabs and are not aware of their arab/jewish history.
they are brainwashed from day one about how the world is against tehm and they are facing another holocaust unless they support zionism.
we hear the same rhetoric in the west about the danger of arabs/muslims and it's important to kill people in the middle east lest they bring the war home.
put yourself in their situation. all they know is that if they do not support or fight for israel, they will face another holocaust.
the solution to this is to reach out to zionists and educate them about their history with arabs and muslims. especially their history in islamic spain.
how many jews or people know that the 2nd largest jewish population is in iran and the openly declare that israel does not speak on their behalf. jews in morrocco, egypt, tunisia, algerai prefer to stay where they are rather than take teh $30k offer and move to israel.
these jews are aware of the past. we need to get in touch with them so they can wield some influence on their israeli brethrens.
it will take time. we need to separate judaism from zionism. we need to engage in dialogues even with the hardcore zionists.
let them believe in their ideology but also present them with facts (with dignity and respect).
it is imperative that they understand that they face no threat. that they have a history/place in the middle east. always have, always will. they have the right to be in in the middle east. just not at the expense of the Palestinians.
the powers that be propagate that jews cannot live without zionism. that israel cannot exist with zionism. that arabs and muslims will destroy their temple. that removing zionism is the same as removing israel.
reality is that when ever muslims took control of al-quds/jerusalem, they forgave their enemies and offered them a peace treaty. the holy land was not filled with checkpoints and there was no restriction on jews and christians. in fact, they were protected from their own.
educate, educate, educate. you are right when u say that very few people know the situation. however, most people do know that there are 2 sides to every story and the constant garbage spewed by the media and the government is just plain scare mongering.
just like most people believe that bush lied about 9/11. don't know about what but they still know that they have been lied to.
if they believe they have been lied by bush, do you honestly think they believe the propaganda about israel?
even 40% of israeli jews (brainwashed) OPPOSE the wall. why? bcos, intuitively, they know it's wrong.
it's also interesting to note that these brainwashed jews are sick of going overseas only to be treated with contempt when they show their israeli passport.
they also want ot visit the no-go zones like the west bank and gaza strip. in fact, some of them would like to travel the middle east and share a cup of coffee with their arab cousins.
how do i know this? one of my friends visited palestine and israel to give a speech. he was there to talk about the history of arabs and jews. he got the above feedback after the lecture. his thesis is focused on the arab/esraeli conflict:
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a779566421~db=all~jumptype=rss
we just need to be patient and reach out to these people. educate them. also, it's important to educate the arabs. they think that jews control the world. i would say jews have a strong influence in this world but ultimately, god controls the world.
no empire/civilization ever had a monopoly. prepare for a shift in power. in the mean time, get out there and educate with patience.
become a pro-jewish anti-zionist. don't hate the people. if anything, point the lies of their government. this applies not just to israel but also the US and UK.
people are sheep. we know that. so why blame them? they're only concerned about the safety of their own and that of their family.
inallaha maa sabhereen.
sorry for the long post but i realized that although zionism may be a threat to world peace, the greater threat is the current clash of the uncivilized.
if we respond to zionists in the same manner they treat their enemies (spreading hate), we are none the better.
you don't put out fire with fire. the reason we need to keep our enemies closer than our friends is so we can understand them. using their weakness against them will only fuel the hate.
how do you overcome your enemy? deprive them of an enemy.
this world lacks empathy. ironically people are getting more and more religious yet getting further and further away from the teaching of god and his prophets.
no wonder the atheist hate religion.
if we respond to zionists in the same manner they treat their enemies (spreading hate), we are none the better.
you don't put out fire with fire. the reason we need to keep our enemies closer than our friends is so we can understand them. using their weakness against them will only fuel the hate.
how do you overcome your enemy? deprive them of an enemy.
this world lacks empathy. ironically people are getting more and more religious yet getting further and further away from the teaching of god and his prophets.
no wonder the atheist hate religion.
Quote from dddooo:
Since when are you and your ilk interested in the world peace when the only thing you're truly interested in is a one state solution with no jewish state in the middle east.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has urged Muslim countries to boycott a planned US-sponsored Middle East peace
Syria Will Not Participate in Annapolis Conference
Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have not said whether they will attend
the head of the Hamas government in Gaza urged Saudi Arabia and Egypt not to attend the conference
In all fairness Abbas is willing to participate in the conference even though PA Stiffens Demands.. But then again, Abbas's willingness to engage in peace negotiations with Israel is exactly why you hate him, isn't it? If peace ever breaks out between the Israelis and Palestinians you and your ilk will have to be put on suicide watch.
You are so funny dddooo! At the time when you handed Condoleza rice a gift by stealing 1200 dunums of land around Jeerusalem. and attempting to ethnicly cleanse the Muslim and Christian population of that city. At the time when you tell us that the refugee tragady, which you caused, is not on the table. At the time when you are trying to impoase a status qoue on the 22% of the land, that is left for us to build our state on, by cutting it to 12 sealed off sections surrounded by Berlin like walls, check points and Jewish only roads. At the time when your wall choped off almost 9% of the most fertile land of West bank. You are here to display your shock and disapointment that the Arab states are a bit turned off from attending a confrence that will normalize relationship with them without you conceeding or compromissing on anything. Why would you want Syria to come??? Discuss the weather???
Khahahahahah you are so funny buddy!!!