Ahmadinejad at Columbia - where's the love for the non-moonbat speakers?

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Sometimes I just have to shake my head at the hypocrisy.

Look at a video - I see everything
Look at a photo - I see nothing

Please, some consistency in your style of assessing evidence would go a long way to make your words more credible.

In court, the jury actually looks at and thinks about both sides of an argument. You do not.

Look, if you want to make an argument about how you hate Bush, or the Iraq War, or how the Fed is illegal, your points can be easily made on the rational arguments available to you. To put yourself in the CTer camp just gets you relegated to the fringe wacko group and lessens your message.
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Ever heard of a judge tell the jury not to pay attention to the evidence as their eyes are lying? NO

Did I mention the FED? NO

Does Haroki have an answer to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAgoI948GGI

NO.

That video ain't just going to go away pal, it exists and proves building 7 was pulled.

Deal with it!
 
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He admits in plain english that it was pulled. What more do you need?
OK, let me tell you what I need - I need to know what exactly he meant by "it" and what exactly he meant by "pull", I need to know why Silverstein decided to "admit" it on TV, I need to know the motive, why did it need to be demolished in the first place, I need to know why it had to be destroyed through contolled demolition when the other two towers were destroyed by planes, I need to know who planned, organized and carried out the demolition as it takes days (if not weeks) and dozens (if not hundreds) of professionals to set up. It also takes a ton of specialized equipment that needs to be brought into the building and stored there for at least some time. Yet not a single person in the building and entire NYC downtown area saw any suspicious activity in or around the building before 9/11. I also need to know why no seismological station in the region registered the explosion.

Extraordinary claims require answers to at least some of these questions, the vertical collapse of the building and extremely ambiguous "pull it" don't even come close.

Do you think an insurance company would have the balls to defy the government version of events and pursue criminal actions on the basis of a conterolled demolition?
For a billion dollars? of course they would, are you kidding.
 
Quote from DrEvil:

What happened to Haroki and his trusty sidekick Hapaboy?

Did you watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAgoI948GGI

Still think building 7 collapsed from a fire?
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Yeah....

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And another
 
Quote from dddooo:

He admits in plain english that it was pulled. What more do you need?
OK, let me tell you what I need - I need to know what exactly he meant by "it" and what exactly he meant by "pull", I need to know why Silverstein decided to "admit" it on TV, I need to know the motive, why did it need to be demolished in the first place, I need to know why it had to be destroyed through contolled demolition when the other two towers were destroyed by planes, I need to know who planned, organized and carried out the demolition as it takes days (if not weeks) and dozens (if not hundreds) of professionals to set up. It also takes a ton of specialized equipment that needs to be brought into the building and stored there for at least some time. Yet not a single person in the building and entire NYC downtown area saw any suspicious activity in or around the building before 9/11. I also need to know why no seismological station in the region registered the explosion.

Extraordinary claims require answers to at least some of these questions, the vertical collapse of the building and extremely ambiguous "pull it" don't even come close.

Do you think an insurance company would have the balls to defy the government version of events and pursue criminal actions on the basis of a conterolled demolition?
For a billion dollars? of course they would, are you kidding.
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Steel Buildings don't collapse from fire ever except when a planned demolition is carried out. FACT.

Silverstein admits in plain english that fire department told him building 7 had to be pulled.

You want answers to anything else, go ask Bush.
 
Quote from DrEvil:

Yes that's right the 911 report did not mention building 7. There has been no seperate official investigation of building 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAgoI948GGI

Deal with it!
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Ok, guess I need to spoon feed you the answers then.

The 9/11 Commission Report doesn't get into the mechanics of the collapse.

The NIST Report does, and they've completed that for 1 and 2.

The NIST Report for 7 is supposed to come out at the end of the year.

Got it?
 
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Yeah....

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Compare a steel building that burned savagely for 17 hours ... frame completely intact next day. Building 7 small fire and after a few hours completely demolished EXACTLY like a demolition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPjOi2dQSM

deal with it!
 
Quote from Haroki:

Ok, guess I need to spoon feed you the answers then.

The 9/11 Commission Report doesn't get into the mechanics of the collapse.

The NIST Report does, and they've completed that for 1 and 2.

The NIST Report for 7 is supposed to come out at the end of the year.

Got it?
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Another one of your lies. Where is your evidence that NIST are invstigating building 7?
 
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LOL Yeah, right! Good one, doo-doo. Have you ever tried stand up comedy? Seriously, you might want to consider it. I think it would be right up your alley.

:D
 
Quote from DrEvil:

Another one of your lies. Where is your evidence that NIST are invstigating building 7?
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Here's the preliminary report, from April, 2005.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC Part IIC - WTC 7 Collapse Final.pdf

And from Daniel Nigro - fire chief on 9/11

Here is an e-mail from Chief Daniel Nigro

Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).

The reasons are as follows:

1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.

2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.

3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.

4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)

http://911guide.googlepages.com/danielnigro



Shortcut to another video of 7 on fire :

http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi


SO, am I still lying, or are you just misinformed?
 
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