After attempting to de-legitimize the press, WH+GOP going after Justice department.

I'm convinced that distrust of the FBI is currently being manufactured on extremely flimsy evidence. It certainly does not meet my personal smell test.

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The upcoming IG's report matters if you are looking for something that is not from the republicans.

Hint: He is livid about the Comey clown show and he does not deal in "extremely flimsy evidence" and he is a DOJ employee who reports equally to Congress and charged with being independent.

Not saying your "personal smell test" is not important. But not sayin it is either.

More to come- much more.

And if your doubts cause you to support an independent counsel to look into it, then that is fine too.

We need an independent counsel who comes from outside federal government, outside the justice department and outside DC.
 
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The upcoming IG's report matters if you are looking for something that is not from the republicans.

Hint: He is livid about the Comey clown show and he does not deal in "extremely flimsy evidence" and he is a DOJ employee who reports equally to Congress and charged with being independent.

Not saying your "personal smell test" is not important. But not sayin it is either.

More to come- much more.

And if your doubts cause you to support an independent counsel to look into it, then that is fine too.

We need an independent counsel who comes from outside federal government, outside the justice department and outside DC.
I prefer independent counsels.
 
I prefer independent counsels.



Always a plus if they are actually independent, rather than a former justice department/fbi employee who has a personal relationship with everyone who needs to be investigated.

You supported an independent counsel for Hillary?

Oh, that's right, there has never been a shred of evidence that there was anything with Hillary that needed to be looked at by someone other than her dnc controlled swamp buddies. Nevermind.
 
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You supported an independent counsel for Hillary?
Of course. It's preferable. But I'm not assuming the result of the investigation was junk just because it was done by FBI. That's just nuts to me. Part of that has to do with the FBI findings being exactly as I said they would be a year ago: guilty of bad judgement, rule and statutory transgressions, but difficult to successfully prosecute based on precedent. Other Sec of State have done the same, and numerous cases of violations in handling classified documents without intent and where no harm can be shown to have resulted have ended in a hand slap, and a "don't do it again." (I know about these cases because I've handled myriad classified docs over the course of my career. So yes, I'm biased because the investigation came out exactly as I said it would. And naturally because of my personal experience and knowledge of the classification system I thought Comey's decision to not recommend prosecution, under the reported circumstances, was the correct one!)

The Petraeus thing, which people like to compare with the Hillary fiasco, was very different. Had Hillary, for example, been sending classified documents to uncleared persons on insecure servers that would have got her prosecuted. But in fact, cleared persons were sending Hillary, a cleared person, classified docs to an insufficiently secure server. That would, based on precedent, get her a don't do this anymore, and make it clear to everyone in your office they are not to transmit classified docs to your personal server.

You'd want to be able to show mal intent to able to expect a successful prosecution in Hillary's case. The precedents are clear here. Comey (a Republican!) made the correct decision re whether to recommend prosecution. Recall, he did not say she was without fault. He was over a barrel. What would you do if you were in charge of an investigation of a major party candidate running for president, and you thought the investigation had come to a conclusion days before the election? Would you say something or just keep quiet? If you put yourself in his shoes you'll understand what a difficult position he was in. All in all his FBI led investigation turned up exactly what everyone else agrees were the errors committed by Hillary and people working with and for her based on what was publicly known. So the only place we can have a legitimate disagreement here is not with respect to the outcome of the investigation part, but with the decision to recommend that she not be prosecuted. It's a decision dependent on opinion based on legal precedent. I say he made the correct decision. You say he didn't. I'm OK with that. We are all entitled to our opinions.

Of course if you're given to conspiracies, and especially those that reinforce your unshakable conviction that Hillary belongs on Death Row, you'll believe pretty much anything, including Tweets from St. Petersburg, or a media network specializing in scandal and anything salacious no matter what the relation of their stories to truth may be.
 
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who has a personal relationship with everyone who needs to be investigated.

I think this is a leap that is likely not supportable with any evidence. But if this sort of thing bothers you, than you shouldn't be able to sleep knowing the friendly relationship between the Nunes led "investigation" in the House and the White House.
 
no. powell and condi sent some emails from private email accounts, and it was also done before secretary of state departmental rules and other federal laws requiring email backup were in effect.

Clinton set up an entire offline server operation. In addition she took deliberate actions to delete thousands and thousands of them, after being ordered to preserve them- knowing that they were not backed up anywhere else.

The emails and texts we have seen from strzok, page etc show that they have also violated some of these rules and that should be an issue. Nevertheless, it would be a full five alarm alert if it were ever discovered that someone in the justice department was running an offline server and doing justice department business outside the reach of the justice department oversight. That would be an order of magnitude of difference putting it off the charts. Especially knowing that foreign intelligence operatives consider the justice department and the state department to be primary targets.

So yeah, powell and condi fucked up and sent some emails back before the rules were tighter and that was bad and so on- but don't even start down the road of trying to use those as Clinton equivalencies. No, that dog don't hunt. If someone in the justice department, foreign affairs/state department, department of defense sets up a private server to do government business, they need to be taken away in cuffs. That's a non-starter.


You do understand that we put military people in prison for taking pictures of their submarine to show their kids, right?
 
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Brennan is beginning to look like that frigging Grumpy Cat on youtube that just died and is being reported in the media.

Probably there are reasons for that. Let's show a little compassion. Being exposed as a fucking traitor using the government intel apparatus to control an election could happen to anyone. OR NOT.

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