Advice on buying some Pistols

Quote from Wayne Gibbous:

I live in a safe area, but I must confess the "don't lock the doors" comment was a bit of hyperbole. I'd be a fool not to use door locks...

I also have a few guns...1911A1 .45, S&W 9mm, 6 .22 target rifles/pistols, 8mm German auto (WWII), 12ga pump, 12ga double, .306, and a model 70 .375 H&H Mag with jacketed rounds - I don't think many vests will stop that bitch. Even if they do, I bet a few ribs will be broken...

Trouble is, with grandkids I have to keep it all locked up. In an emergency, with lights off etc, how do you get that gun safe open or trigger/cable lock off in time to nail the bad guys?

I also fool around with throwing knives. I set up a little "knife range" with measured distances and a big back stop. I'm not very good at it, but it is cool when I get one to stick just right, near the middle of a playing card. If you have never tried it, throwing knives is far different from the typical movie version...

Cool collection. They do make biometric pistol safes that you just put your hand on and it pops open.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I can see you know about as much on handguns as you do where the price of gold is going. :D




.40 S&W is an excellent handgun cartridge.


Huh? I grew up with guns and am a decent skeet shooter ( practiced several times per week growing up)

As far as handguns I have owned a Russian 9mm, a Jennings 25 cal and a tech 9 from intratech (pre ban)--- my statement about handguns be very difficult to hit anything with--- if you are not an expert spending days at the range, is doubly true under stress.

They are simply not a smart home defense weapon ( for most) as they will just as likely be turned on you if you are not an expert in a hand guns use.
 
Take it from someone who knows...

If you're sleeping and the perp is already in the room with you, in the dark crawling around on the floor looking to rape your old lady, and if that gun isn't there and ready to go WITHOUT some stupid safe contraption, you ARE at a disadvantage. You need to be alarmed prior to anyone even attempting to enter your home.

Otherwise you're sitting ducks
 
From the way some of you guys are talking, there seems to be more hurdles and drawbacks to having a pistol as a home defense weapon than there are advantages. It sounds like pepper spray or something similar would be a much more practical home defense weapon than pistols, for both men and women.
 
All the macho hallucinating aside, with the electronics available at absurdly reasonable prices there's no reason anyone should be able to gain entrance to your house. Outside motion detectors with lights, properly placed with high resolution lipstick style cameras attached that display on normal tv/ monitor screens inside the house and record to hard drives are the first line of defense. Add to that a speaker system that you can program to say anything when an intruder is detected. Place a similar system inside that turns on every light inside the house whenever any motion is sensed. If your out of town an alarm can be e mailed and you can view the screen on a smart phone. Look into it , it's a better alternative to shooting it out with some turd in your bedroom. The real downside is that the turd may have a wacko relative that puts you on his hit list or something similar. Best course of action is always prevention of the event in the first place.
 
Quote from Baron:

From the way some of you guys are talking, there seems to be more hurdles and drawbacks to having a pistol as a home defense weapon than there are advantages. It sounds like pepper spray or something similar would be a much more practical home defense weapon than pistols, for both men and women.


Check out Larry Flynts bedroom in "the people vs Larry Flynt" movie. That's what one needs to feel totally secure......

:D
 
I believe there's a use for a gun in specific situations during a home invasion but the actual event happens so fast that you have to think and plan ahead in order to avoid unseen complications. As an example, let's say that someone is in your room with you and has a gun and you also have a gun. Well, where are your kid's rooms located? Are they sleeping in them? Are their rooms in the line of fire? Lots to think about, be aware of, and prepare for.

There will never be a textbook situation.
 
Quote from Nostradamus357:

Take it from someone who knows...

If you're sleeping and the perp is already in the room with you, in the dark crawling around on the floor looking to rape your old lady, and if that gun isn't there and ready to go WITHOUT some stupid safe contraption, you ARE at a disadvantage. You need to be alarmed prior to anyone even attempting to enter your home.

Otherwise you're sitting ducks

That is why they make dachsunds
 
Quote from Nostradamus357:

I believe there's a use for a gun in specific situations during a home invasion but the actual event happens so fast that you have to think and plan ahead in order to avoid unseen complications. As an example, let's say that someone is in your room with you and has a gun and you also have a gun. Well, where are your kid's rooms located? Are they sleeping in them? Are their rooms in the line of fire? Lots to think about, be aware of, and prepare for.

There will never be a textbook situation.



And doing nothing in this situation puts your children in an even greater danger of growing up the rest of their lives without a parent


They make lower velocity shotgun loads for home defense. One could also install denser material under the sheetrock in the kid's room such as 1/2 inch hardiplank concrete siding on both sides. They also make denser sheetrock that is made for soundblocking that is quite a bit stronger than standard.
 
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