According to the donkeys at MSNBC, we are now running concentration camps.

The goal post being the topic of immigration (migration into the country). The manufactured outrage of alleged hordes of criminals coming north spouted by agent orange. The Mexican graph being a jab at "Mexico sending their worst".

Immigration was always the topic that I was discussing. I don't follow you at all about agent orange - what are you going on about? And I never once said Mexico is sending their worst.

Hell, I'll even argue that the number of illegals is inconsequential and manufactured outrage as well. It certainly wasn't on the political radar before '11, when the number was almost at its peak, and Republicans had a history of embracing the topic in fact (recall Bush trying to push reform).

It's been on the political radar since Reagan, and even before that. You may not have considered it important, but that's actually one of the reasons Trump won - so many have been thinking about it for a long time now.

It all changed when the towers came down and the right wing rags realized fear was a profitable venture. I'm sure you could plot Fox and CNN (w/lou dobbs) and all the talking heads pushing that topic to the top, I realized it was a lost cause when it overtook terrorism as the most 'important topic' to the public.

Again, you're off on some other tangent - Of course safety is a big play here, won't argue that. Can't secure the country if you can't secure it's borders. Rather obvious, I would think.
 
Interesting. When you said "You have to understand there is now a profit motive in keeping illegals locked up, rather than being expedient with their deportations (past admins)." it sounded like you were saying there is now a profit motive, but there wasn't before. Glad we agree this stuff started before the Trump administration.

Nah, it started before Trump no doubt, heck it probably grew up to the point when Obama tried to shut them down, and they started buying off politicians lobbying hard during his admin. Obama was no saint to immigrants and my best guess is he was trying to pander to the right by being tough at the border so they'd compromise on reform, but it was too late to realize they never really cared to give him a win, at that point Obama did a 180 and eased enforcement substantially.

It's no secret these guys have been dumping millions to the likes of Kobach, and their strategy is simple, come down hard on conviction rate and length of sentencing, since we've gotta foot the bill. That's why catch and release was scrapped, and that's why the minimum time served was increased w/this zero tolerance BS. For the latest, see how they've pushed on weed enforcement.

As for the opinion piece you posted, this was a little different....there were a ton of unaccompanied minors in this instance, and they had to put them somewhere. At least Obama's DHS was willing to release them to family as they awaited a court decision....Trump on the other hand, has been locking up those that go pick up the kids.
 
There shouldn't be any discretion at all. The law is the law. There might be discretion on the sentencing of a guilty person dependent on the severity of the crime, but the law should be universally followed. However, I can see how a law might have lax enforcement when there are few violations of it. Immigration has become a major problem, with the burdening of resources and expense being pushed to the taxpayer. Thus, it has reached its breaking point. Now folks are like "we need to enforce the law". Finally.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...additional-immigration-judges-we-have-to-have

 
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Really? The sources named in the article are the NY Times, the Hill, CNN, etc. Infowars isn't in any of the sources, and is not where the article came from.

Sorry if the truth bothers you, but that doesn't change it.

It's Zero Hedge. Just as unreliable, if not worse.
See my thread "Chomsky -- Why Israel is a U.S. Sacred Cow"
You and your politics are nicely described by Chomsky.
 
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It's Zero Hedge. Just as unreliable, if not worse.
See my thread "Chomsky -- Why Israel is a U.S. Sacred Cow"
You and your politics are nicely described by Chomsky.

So, despite you being full of shit and calling it Alex Jones and Infowars (which I am on record of saying multiple times I do not read or pay heed to) and despite the fact that the article refers to CNN, the Times, the Hill, etc., and you have no evidence to refute, because it was posted at a site you dislike, the article is instantly bunk according to you.

Man, you are one dense mother fucker.

Arnie was spot on when he said this about you.
 
Best accommodations these kids have seen probably ever in their lives. Certainly better than their irresponsible parents have ever shown them.
Yeah, I'm sure that the kids who were just forcibly separated from their parents are taking a moment to appreciate the aesthetics and fine furnishings.
 
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