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[a_person]

Quote from Tresor:

Once again; Jewish overrepresenation in Communist Russia was computed based on the numbers provided by Wikipedia. Sue Wikipedia

I don't need to sue wikipedia to point out that you're an antisemitic idiot, nazi boy.

Jews are always overrepresented when there is no quotas. This is not in dispute. They are overrepresented in communist movements and they are overrepresented in anti-communist movements.

Jews are overrepresented in the US congress but no normal person blames whatever good or bad the congress does on the Jews, anti-semitic idiots do. Jews are overrepresented in every american government (bush and clinton and obama and many others) but only lowlifes talk about jewish conspiracies, jews are overrepresented in business but only scumbags blame every recession or market downturn on the jews, jews are overrepresented in science and technology but only nazi-boys attribute every scientific success (and especially failure) to the jews.

Your tendency to count jews everywhere is the immediate and irrefutable proof that you are a jew obsessed, low-life nazi-boy.

 

[a_person]

Oh and btw, your numbers are lying/misleading:

Here is the list of Politburo Members from 1919 to 1940.
http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/polit-hist.html

Based on my count 4 out of 33 members were jews (same number as Georgians). Three of them were expelled in 1926.

9 out of 10 politburo members were not jewish, 99% of russian jews had nothing at at all to do with communism but it does not stop jew haters from blaming Communism on the Jews.

 

[Tresor]

Quote from a_person:
I don't need to sue wikipedia to point out that you're an antisemitic idiot, nazi boy.

Since when giving historic facts is synonymous with antisemitisim?

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They (Jews) are overrepresented in communist movements.

You are a self-hating Jew and an anti-Semite. According to the queer logic you have presented accross many threads telling the truth about Jewish Bolshevism is anti-Semitic.

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Jews are overrepresented in the US congress .... Jews are overrepresented in every american government (bush and clinton and obama and many others) but only lowlifes talk about jewish conspiracies

Is it also a conspiracy theory to say that US engages in wars on behalf of Israel (financially and in number of US soldiers' deaths)?

Quote from a_person:
Your tendency to count jews everywhere is the immediate and irrefutable proof that you are a jew obsessed, low-life nazi-boy.

Hahaha, I did not count them. Wikipedia counted them, you little islamophobic nazi-zionist.

 

[Tresor]

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Oh and btw, your numbers are lying/misleading

These are not my numbers. These are Wikipedia's numbers.

 

[byteme]

Quote from a_person:

According to the link you provided:

They are the socialists, communists, anarchists and so-called "human rights" junkies and "peace and justice" activists. The well-being of Israel is the very least of their concerns. What they lack in number they more than make up in noise level.
http://www.masada2000.org/shit-list.html

That website claims to list 8,860 Jews that fit their criteria.

The author(s) also claim that that "Unfortunately, they are but the "tip of the iceberg"" and that the total number who may fit in this "category" is perhaps 5% of the total Jewish population.

That would make about 750,000 Jews they believe are Jewish "self-haters and/or Israel threatening".

The impression I'm getting from the site is that if you are Jewish then you are expected to support Israel unconditionally. If you don't then you may be categorized as one of these self-haters or Israel threatening. Is my impression correct?

If you are a Jew and you question the tactics and policies of the state of Israel, are you likely to qualify for that list? Is that all it takes?

Sadly, the author(s) of that particular website seem to resort to child-like insults and name-calling a lot of the time if you browse through the "list" so I'm not sure how seriously I can take it.

Indeed, the very need to make such a website strikes me as a tad juvenile. What is the point exactly?

 

[a_person]

Quote from Tresor:

These are not my numbers. These are Wikipedia's numbers.

Irrelevant. The fact is that 9 out of 10 Politburo members were not jews, 99% of russian jews had nothing to do with communism. People believing that the jews are responsible for communism are idiots, nazis and antisemites.

 

[a_person]

Quote from byteme:

The impression I'm getting from the site is that if you are Jewish then you are expected to support Israel unconditionally. If you don't then you may be categorized as one of these self-haters or Israel threatening. Is my impression correct?

That's actually a good point, the views expressed on that site represent the views of that site's owners and no one else. It's certainly legitimate to criticize Israel and not be a "self-hating jew". In fact the whole concept of criticism is vague, some criticize Israel for being too aggressive in its self-defense, others for not being forceful and aggressive enough. Obviously neither criticism amounts to self-hatred.

The attitude prevalent in some circles that Israel can do no right and Arabs/Muslims can do no wrong, the attempts to single out Israel and treat it as a jew among nations is of course a totally different matter. Jews denying Israel's right to exist, making bogus accusations of genocide and absurd comparisons with Nazism and/or Apartheid are the people who are universally considered "self-hating jews" although I tend to think the name is a misnomer. Their numbers are small, virtually all of them do indeed hold ultra-leftist, socialist, communist, "green party", anarchist views, their position on Israel reflects their extremist political philosophies, not their jewishness.

 

[Tresor]

Quote from a_person:

Irrelevant ... blah blah blah ... are idiots, nazis and antisemites.

a_person, you were proven a LIAR in many threads. The information you have been posting in this forum were either incomplete or false. Based on your information you also provided a ''logical'' explanations that had nothing to do with sheer logic. You never apologized for the lies and partial thruths that you spread.

On the other hand, I provided ONE false information (a few month ago) for which I apologized.

This is how our ways of debating differ.

A few posts earlier you said that:

a) a blamed Jews for Capitalism,
b) posted false theories from Protocols (I never cared to read the protocols).

Put action where your mouth is and prove me saying the above a) and b). Or else you will be proven a LIAR again.

 

[a_person]

Quote from Tresor:

a) a blamed Jews for Capitalism,
b) posted false theories from Protocols (I never cared to read the protocols).

The Protocols are spread by the word of mouth among jew haters, you don't need to read it, you might as well frequent anti-semitic websites and get exactly the same crap. When you accuse the jews of controlling governments, the media, finances, banks etc you're regurgitating the Protocol's talking points regardless of whether you've read the actual "masterpiece" of antisemitism or not.

 

[Debaser82]

Quote from a_person:

That's actually a good point, the views expressed on that site represent the views of that site's owners and no one else. It's certainly legitimate to criticize Israel and not be a "self-hating jew". In fact the whole concept of criticism is vague, some criticize Israel for being too aggressive in its self-defense, others for not being forceful and aggressive enough. Obviously neither criticism amounts to self-hatred.

The attitude prevalent in some circles that Israel can do no right and Arabs/Muslims can do no wrong, the attempts to single out Israel and treat it as a jew among nations is of course a totally different matter. Jews denying Israel's right to exist, making bogus accusations of genocide and absurd comparisons with Nazism and/or Apartheid are the people who are universally considered "self-hating jews" although I tend to think the name is a misnomer. Their numbers are small, virtually all of them do indeed hold ultra-leftist, socialist, communist, "green party", anarchist views, their position on Israel reflects their extremist political philosophies, not their jewishness.

Are zionists allowed to use the internet on Shabbat?