A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex

He is still great because he's Elon Musk, that's the undeniable reality and truth, regardless of whether and/or how much he received from the "establishment". And as a matter of fact, it's only after he's proved himself that the "establishment" decided to invest in him and it's mainly for their own benefit. He single-handedly invented the massive production system of the electric car and built the company entirely with his own money and money from financial lending institutions, not really from the "establishment". He put in everything he got into SpaceX to finance the FOUR spaceship launches before the "establishment" finally recognized him and decided to partner with him. And for everything that the "establishment" has given him, he's paid more than 10 fold back. He single-handedly brought space missions back. NASA was on the brink of canceling its space program before he stepped in and revived it.

Of course this is not to excuse him for what he's done IF he's really done what he's accused of. But his accomplishment shouldn't be diminished.

no. Tesla got massive subsidies from the Obama administration: directly and indirectly. Tesla would have failed without them. That specifically is what I was referring to when I refuted this point from another poster.

he has done great things. I think the greatest thing he did was get the model 3/y production up.

But to say it wasn’t without initial government help is not true.
 
Got slapped after asking my wife if she'd like to earn a horse. :fistbump::fistbump:

They expect free gifts, without having to do anything for it.

Musk's first wife used to tell him 'I am not your employee, i am your wife'

But when divorce time came around she sure wanted a big redundancy payment, plus Tesla and SpaceX stock, which see failed to get as stock wasnt part of her prenup.
 
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no. Tesla got massive subsidies from the Obama administration: directly and indirectly. Tesla would have failed without them. That specifically is what I was referring to when I refuted this point from another poster.

he has done great things. I think the greatest thing he did was get the model 3/y production up.

But to say it wasn’t without initial government help is not true.

Yeah but he wasn't the only one who received subsidies from the "establishment". Considering all of the subsidies that everyone else received, what he received really doesn't count as anything extra or special especially considering how much he's accomplished. That's what I wanted to say.
 
What are the chances of billionaires being easy targets for gold diggers and ambulance chasing lawyers? The way they figure it out, you will pay up just to get rid of their asses----so an easy win without proving anything. President Donald Trump was accused of all sorts of things by women coming out of the woodwork but, vanished, just as quickly. And can you believe the women accusing him? This guy was a handsome billionaire with loads of women probably, with a crush on him. He does not need to chase after an ugly skank out for her 15 seconds of fame and a payout. Karen McDougal, ex-Playboy model I believe. She was respectful of both President Donald Trump and even apologized to Melania. She obviously, had a crush on President Donald Trump. Elon Musk no doubt is just an easy target as well. If you are a billionaire, you should wear a body camera like those worn by the police when you are out in public or even when conducting an interview with extreme liberal media. That way, everyone would be kosher and on their best behavior.
 
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