A message to those that constantly complain

And, if one meets this goal, have they succeeded in life?

Jackie would say no, since we all die anyways.

Quote from supadavo:




The goal of life is quite simple.. to develop self conscious awareness

 
Quote from supadavo:

The goal of life is quite simple.. to develop self conscious awareness

Be it a quantum physicist wrestling with his own awareness affecting the outcome of the wave particle double-slit experiment
This is sheer nonsense. You have completely misunderstood the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, but this is common among mysticophiles with only cursory knowledge of physical science. Suffice it to say, observers don't always affect the outcomes of their observations or experiments. This is just Eastern mystics running amok and trying to hide behind the apron of a science which they scarcely understand, if at all.

Seriously, does any sane person believe the Hubble Telescope affects the light-years-distant astronomical events it observes and records?
 
Quote from Fireplace:

No, you're missing my point. You define 'winning' as never dying... since we all lose what else can you mean?
If your definition is such, then of course we all lose.

BUT....who says that your definition is correct. Maybe 'winning' is sleeping with 100 perfect 10's, or making 1 billion dollars, or helping the poor make their lives better and so forth.

Surely, if you believe we all 'lose' this game why not just do whatever you want, why the heck are you on Elite Trader? Surely someone enlightened like you would be out 'playing the game differently' since you understand the real 'rules'.

:)

PS A basketball or football game begins and ends, but it's what happens in between that determines the winner.

+1

Equating dying with losing is just bizarre and morbid. I agree 100% with Fireplace that it's what you do with the time you have. "winning" or "losing" is relative - every person has to define that for themselves.

Were Mother Theresa, Einstein, Newton etc... "losers" just because they couldn't avoid the inevitable? Who knows? maybe in their own minds they were, but it certainly had nothing to do with their deaths. Pretty sure if I developed the theory of relativity and changed the world as we know it, I'd be feeling pretty good on my deathbed.

This thread sure took a disturbing turn...:confused:
 
Quote from Fireplace:

And, if one meets this goal, have they succeeded in life?

Jackie would say no, since we all die anyways.


Take it for what it is, what you decide to do with the middle bit is your purgative....
 
Quote from supadavo:

The Copenhagen interpretation disagrees with you.. but this is common among pseudo intellects ;)
Wrong again, and combining this with your frankly psychotic notion that death = losing, I can see why you are seen as stupid, at least here in ET. Just another arrogant fool to add to my ignore list. Good riddance.
 
So what happens when one achieves a very high level of self awareness?

Quote from supadavo:

There is no succeeding or failure, the process is out of our hands to a certain extent, all will go on to acquire that total self awareness no matter what choices they make.. there is no right and wrong, it all teaches the same thing.

You can speed up the process by actively pursuing a path of enlightenment/knowledge.. but physical existence is pretty much set up to develop self awareness automatically.. be it war, love, hate, sex, power, money etc it's all geared toward one aim.


Heed the words of the great bard..



Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
 
Quote from supadavo:

There is no succeeding or failure, the process is out of our hands to a certain extent, all will go on to acquire that total self awareness no matter what choices they make.. there is no right and wrong, it all teaches the same thing.

You can speed up the process by actively pursuing a path of enlightenment/knowledge.. but physical existence is pretty much set up to develop self awareness automatically.. be it war, love, hate, sex, power, money etc it's all geared toward one aim.


Heed the words of the great bard..



Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

The Macbeth quote is only one take on life - I assume you interpret it to mean that life is brief and that our actions are somewhat preordained and therefore meaningless in a sense.

But does a life have to be eternal in order to have meaning? Using the physician reference, they may help save a life or they may not - both parties will end up dead anyway. Does this mean that the actions of the doctor have no relevance whatsoever?
 
Quote from Jackie Treehorn:

Take it for what it is, what you decide to do with the middle bit is your purgative....

purgative

–adjective
1.
purging or cleansing, especially by causing evacuation of the bowels.
 
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