A major question about this new gun control

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You make a good point about lying. IMO the subject of an investigation has a right to lie.

When I was young my father was a policeman and then a Federal drug agent. It's a tough dangerous job. Weirdly he too took tactrader's road from law enforcement to trading.

I'm only piping in about your comment on "satellite reconnaissance." Been around for years. I'll give away two secrets to budding ET growers. (no pun intended) Police now will use infra-red to detect indoor operations. Lotta heat given off by those lights. Also, UTILITY companies may give you up. Now that I find hilarious. These are folks who you're paying and they'll report you in a second if they know you're using 15x the electricity as your neighbor. I suppose generators and heat insulation are big items in the dealer playbook.
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I think someone in that situation won an argument in court that this is an illegal search. Infrared cannot be admissable in a court of law, I think.
 
I am not sure about the infrared bit but here is an interesting snippet.

I was on a task force a couple years back and we were able to make a case on a marijuana grow operation just on smell. I couldn't believe it either but the broad facts were:

We got a tip about a small grow operation inside a semi trailer parked on a piece of property. When we got there noticed two huge ventilation stacks and an air conditioner hard wired into the trtailer. As we approached it, we could clearly smell marijuana.

The defense tried to suppress it but since I am a qualified expert witness in drug identification and investigation the judge allowed my testimony and findings. We seized over 30 pounds of weed which in my state is a trafficking amount and about $20,000 in hydroponics equipment.

I guess it depends on the venue and the judge, I am in the south so there is still a hint of conservatism and the judge just wasn't going to let an operation like that go without someone paying the price.

Interesting, huh?
 
Negative....Heat seeking signatures are huge part of admissible evidence...which leads to power bills being subpoenaed and the questioning of neighbors and vendors...etc..etc..

Quote from oddiduro:

I think someone in that situation won an argument in court that this is an illegal search. Infrared cannot be admissable in a court of law, I think.
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Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Negative....Heat seeking signatures are huge part of admissible evidence...which leads to power bills being subpoenaed and the questioning of neighbors and vendors...etc..etc..
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Watch speaking in absolutes. Regionally we can not patrol with our aviation unit looking for heat signatures anymore. However.... If our aviation unit is en-route to a call and happens to see a large heat signature and marks it for investigation then the rules change a little.

Shedding first hand light is all.
 
I'm curious to know how you felt about that in pre-planning and execution considering you've said that you've had more trouble with drunks than with pot smokers?

Quote from TacTrader:

We got a tip about a small grow operation inside a semi trailer parked on a piece of property. When we got there noticed two huge ventilation stacks and an air conditioner hard wired into the trtailer. As we approached it, we could clearly smell marijuana.

Interesting, huh?
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Another Cop?

Quote from piratebob:

Watch speaking in absolutes. Regionally we can not patrol with our aviation unit looking for heat signatures anymore. However.... If our aviation unit is en-route to a call and happens to see a large heat signature and marks it for investigation then the rules change a little.

Shedding first hand light is all.
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Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

What are you...my mother?

Are you a cop or not....at least Tac fesses up.
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Easy buddy. I misread your original post and wrote something I eventually deleted. Disregard was a place holder while I deleted.
 
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