A major question about this new gun control

And I respect that ...I'm not looking for a fight. Best to you.

Quote from TacTrader:

Believer in what?

I would like to respond but not sure what you mean....

Belief in the system, God, human nature?

That is why I am trading....you can only wade into a shit hole every day for years on end and not get sick of the smell...yeah it really is like that. To truly in real life watch someone kill themselves with drugs, to be in the same room with a sexual predator who just ass raped a beautiful little 10 year old girl and ruined her for the rest of her life, to tell a mom that her teenage son is dead because he hit a tree 3 blocks from the house...and she cannot see him because he has no head, just weird stuff that nobody wants to deal with is the normal business day. You truly get hardened to things and one's outlook on life and people changes dramatically...it's twisted.

I am not complaining, I chose my path and glad I did. I wouldn't change it for the world and I have a real sense of fulfillment from what I have done. But...there is more to life. My wife, children, health, money and of course father time. Time is the commodity that has no price tag. I feel I have given my time, my contribution to society. Now I want to trade, simple as that.

I am not playing a sympathy card, I don't need that. Someone blasted me a while back for it....he is on ignore. Just responding to your questions...

Regards
 
Buy em now gents... buy em now.... Hows that for a buy signal???!!

Don't forget the accessories... magazines, ammo, etc. That stuff will disappear quickly as well

Keep them quite and outta site too. Call me paranoid... call me a gun nut.... we will see when everyone is beating down piratebobs door after the fecal matter hits the rotary blades. :p

I mean it makes complete sense to have stricter gun control laws.... Look at the great job it did in Washington............or.......anywhere.......
ever.........
 
Quote from TacTrader:

Believer in what?

I would like to respond but not sure what you mean....

Belief in the system, God, human nature?

That is why I am trading....you can only wade into a shit hole every day for years on end and not get sick of the smell...yeah it really is like that. To truly in real life watch someone kill themselves with drugs, to be in the same room with a sexual predator who just ass raped a beautiful little 10 year old girl and ruined her for the rest of her life, to tell a mom that her teenage son is dead because he hit a tree 3 blocks from the house...and she cannot see him because he has no head, just weird stuff that nobody wants to deal with is the normal business day. You truly get hardened to things and one's outlook on life and people changes dramatically...it's twisted.

I am not complaining, I chose my path and glad I did. I wouldn't change it for the world and I have a real sense of fulfillment from what I have done. But...there is more to life. My wife, children, health, money and of course father time. Time is the commodity that has no price tag. I feel I have given my time, my contribution to society. Now I want to trade, simple as that.

I am not playing a sympathy card, I don't need that. Someone blasted me a while back for it....he is on ignore. Just responding to your questions...

Regards

And those that survive I will see. Sometimes I wish that the gunshot wound to the spine would have killed them. But, it didn't so now they are here with me and the rest of my nurses. It is sad to see a 20 something year old in a wheelchair, and all that comes with lack of mobility.

I feel for you bro, and I trade as well in the hopes that I can escape a failing health care system.
 
Quote from TacTrader:



...I will probably get flamed for my views but in this instance I don't give a shit. Guns = Freedom and I will keep mine thank you very much!!!!...


Not from me you won't, good post.
 
Quote from TacTrader:


I am not complaining, I chose my path and glad I did. I wouldn't change it for the world and I have a real sense of fulfillment from what I have done. But...there is more to life. My wife, children, health, money and of course father time. Time is the commodity that has no price tag. I feel I have given my time, my contribution to society. Now I want to trade, simple as that.


I'm not looking to start a fight here, but since you volunteered the personal information, I'd like to pose a thought. You say you "chose" your path. I agree wholeheartedly. We all choose. My question is why did you choose law enforcement?

My inclination is that "time" was not all that important to you at an early age, when you "chose" to do what you do. But as "time" has passed you have become aware of it's preciousness, but not fully, because you "wouldn't change it for the world".

Do you have more of a sense of fulfillment from your job or your life, your family? We are all aware of the high divorce rate and other indicators of emotional distress among law enforcement. So with that information, why would you "choose" to become a part of it? To me it's a contradiction, or rather, the lesson learned contradicts the original intent to protect and serve. If that was the intent.

As I said I am not trying to antagonize you. I simply disagree with your chosen profession. Until it is radically changed to truly protect the innocent, I can't garner the least amount of respect. I simply wonder why one would choose it as a career knowing the harm it causes. My assumption is to fulfill some self worth issue or to exact some kind of revenge. Please correct if I'm wrong.

BTW. As far as guns go, I too believe strongly in the second amendment.
 
Quote from TacTrader:

They have a place...

Most informant are pretty shitty. People become informants for several reasons including revenge, monetary gain, the befriend a cop mentality, miscellaneous personal gain, etc.

The real benefit of no knocks are when it comes to officer safety. If there is credible information that there are people inside that are armed, have a history of violence against LE, or have made threats then the no knock is good.

Another reason is when there is a strong possibility that the evidence in the home could easily be destroyed within a short time period once they know the cops are coming.

Those are the benefits, there are probably some disadvantages but I am on the other side of the argument so I see it as an officer safety thing. I want me and my guys to go home at the end of the day.

What are your thoughts?

No knocks and the typical SWAT door kick in frighten me for one reason. What if they get the wrong address? It happens. If someone kicks in my door at 3 AM I am likely to shoot first and ask questions later. Then I either get shot down by 15 pumped up cops or I get charged with shooting a cop. What is the answer? What should a citizen do in this situation?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

What is the answer? What should a citizen do in this situation?

You already know the answer.

Which would you rather have?

'Tried' by twelve, or carried by six?

- Spydertrader
 
Good questions and I will try to respond...

I chose law enforcement for several reasons. I come from a family who spent their careers in local government. In the area I live, there is not much industry, mainly service oriented professions or sales (which I hate). Law enforcement, public education, etc. are historically stable careers with a retirement and benefits at the end, even if the income is rather low to average. I was 24...at a point where I felt a choice in life was needed.

Time was important then, but on a different level. I was newly married, no children and ready to rock and roll. You are right in that as time has passed I have become more aware of its preciousness, however the fact that I wouldn't change it for the world has nothing to do with time. My choices in life are all precious to me and hopefully yours because that is what makes you who you are. The lessons "learnt" over the years transforms someone into a unique person and that is just as important as anything else. If I was lamenting my life regretting the choices I made and wished I had done something else, then I would not be "growing" as a human being...that is what life is all about, at least to me anyways. Public service on any level may not be the best choice financially, but there are many rewards and I have experienced alot of them. I can walk away with my head held high knowing that I have given to my community, saved a life or three, and put some bad guys in the jailhouse. Not bragging or anything, it's just who I am. It's also who I am to want more for myself and my family...so off to the markets I go.

When I first started my career my fulfillment came from my job. Now it is my family and the things I do with them on a daily basis. That is why I have changed direction and moved toward trading. I am lucky in the fact that I have a strong marriage, however I have seen families literally fall apart in front of my eyes and my wife and I see that and try to take lessons from those observations so we do not fall into the same trap. She understands why I want to hang up my gun belt and supports my trading 100%

I have a pretty flexible schedule which allows me to trade "part time" however my research and mental focus probably equates to "full time". I feel as motivated about trading as I did years ago when I first hit the road...I still enjoy my job but it is waning. There are a few more things I want to accomplish and that is good for me because it would be real easy to abandon everything and think that I am going to be rich off of trading and quit my job. I have a 3-4 year timeframe which I believe is achievable.

No revenge needed...I haven't been wronged by the system or anything like that. I respect your disagreement with my path and sometimes agree with you in that the system is set up a little bass ackwards however I think that is overshadowed by the good things that are present because there are "laws" and an institution in place to enforce those laws. I think it causes more good than harm, however I would not argue that to a person who has experienced the harm because their experience is what matters to them and I am sympathetic to their situation. They are double victims...first of the act then of the system, but that has really little to do with the "street" cop.

Hope I answered your Q's...






Quote from silver914:

I'm not looking to start a fight here, but since you volunteered the personal information, I'd like to pose a thought. You say you "chose" your path. I agree wholeheartedly. We all choose. My question is why did you choose law enforcement?

My inclination is that "time" was not all that important to you at an early age, when you "chose" to do what you do. But as "time" has passed you have become aware of it's preciousness, but not fully, because you "wouldn't change it for the world".

Do you have more of a sense of fulfillment from your job or your life, your family? We are all aware of the high divorce rate and other indicators of emotional distress among law enforcement. So with that information, why would you "choose" to become a part of it? To me it's a contradiction, or rather, the lesson learned contradicts the original intent to protect and serve. If that was the intent.

As I said I am not trying to antagonize you. I simply disagree with your chosen profession. Until it is radically changed to truly protect the innocent, I can't garner the least amount of respect. I simply wonder why one would choose it as a career knowing the harm it causes. My assumption is to fulfill some self worth issue or to exact some kind of revenge. Please correct if I'm wrong.

BTW. As far as guns go, I too believe strongly in the second amendment.
 
Fine post.

Quote from TacTrader:

Gotsta chime in here...

I carry a gun for a living and have several types and calibers at my disposal every day. I have had guns pointed at me and shots zing and snap by me. The weapons I have encountered on the street were mostly stolen however many crimes committed by guns are legally bought. That being said, I still support the 2nd Amendment 110%. Someone said earlier that "when the cops come to get your guns" I can pretty much guarantee that it won't be like that. Even if there were a total gun ban, law enforcement does not overwhelmingly want to take your guns from you. Sure there are prolly a couple who would relish taking your arsenal, but most would knock on your door, announce that they are confiscating weapons and say..."You don't have any firearms in your house DO YOU?" The correct response of course is....No sir not me. They cannot search your house because that would violate another Amendment, the fourth one!

I also don't think a dictator will quietly sneak in while we are sleeping...I think we will ELECT him (or her). The socialist agendas on the table right now are staggering and one of 'em just might win! That being said, don't count on the military or police gunning down Ma and Pa Kettle. It just isn't going to happen.

The real use for guns and the best reason to keep the 2nd Amendment intact is the rising crime and piss poor economy. Throw a natural or manmade disaster in there where basic services like electricity or running water are a thing of the past and you will see gun owners have a major advantage over the bleeding hearts. The ability to protect oneself is a very important thing that we have forgotten in our civilized and bleached out lives of content and unending pleasures. The cornicopia is not a guarantee my friends...I am not being a doomsayer or think the world is coming to an end, but preparedness never wished they had done this or that...

I will probably get flamed for my views but in this instance I don't give a shit. Guns = Freedom and I will keep mine thank you very much!!!!

Wish you all the best...
 
Quote from TacTrader:


No revenge needed...I haven't been wronged by the system or anything like that. I respect your disagreement with my path and sometimes agree with you in that the system is set up a little bass ackwards however I think that is overshadowed by the good things that are present because there are "laws" and an institution in place to enforce those laws. I think it causes more good than harm, however I would not argue that to a person who has experienced the harm because their experience is what matters to them and I am sympathetic to their situation. They are double victims...first of the act then of the system, but that has really little to do with the "street" cop.


As I said, I don't know your motives, I was just guessing. The thing that struck me most about your reply was the premise that the laws and an institution to enforce those laws are a good thing.

To illustrate, a few years ago the national speed limit was 55 mph. How many hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people were cited for breaking that law? And then it went away. You see, it was against the law at the time to go faster than 55 mph. Now it's not. To be sure, we don't consider those that broke that law to be criminals, but there are laws that do criminalize behavior regardless of the morality of the behavior.

My point is, I believe there to be too many laws. Subsequently there are too many cops. Blame it on our litigous nature, but sometimes I wish people would fight back. I think police posess way too much power and I think explicably they abuse that power way too much.

And that is overshadowed by the good? I shake my head. You cannot control the behavior of people, try as we might. The more laws you have the more lawbreakers you make. If you have a teenage daughter then you know that the more you tell her what to do, what not to do, where she can go, who she can and cannot see, the more you control her the more she rebels. I say let people make their own mistakes and take responsibilty for their own actions.

Again, I say this in discussion and am not interested in attacking anyone. It is a highly charged topic and an easy one to blow out of proportion. It would be nice to wave a magic wand and "make it all better". I don't hold much hope of it becoming better magic wand or not. At this age I find myself just wanting to check out and go somewhere else, but I have kids too and thus the responsibility to be available.
 
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