A major question about this new gun control
- Thread starter Yours truly
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Well T-dog, its a free country ;
and the framers of the 2nd ammendment simply disagree with you. And thats an important part of a free country
Add to the equation crooks who could care less about your feelings/phobias but those with any sense listen to a 12 guage or .357 magnum.Too bad for those who don't.
Peace officers can't be everywhere ;but .45 ''peace maker '' can.
Gotsta chime in here...
I carry a gun for a living and have several types and calibers at my disposal every day. I have had guns pointed at me and shots zing and snap by me. The weapons I have encountered on the street were mostly stolen however many crimes committed by guns are legally bought. That being said, I still support the 2nd Amendment 110%. Someone said earlier that "when the cops come to get your guns" I can pretty much guarantee that it won't be like that. Even if there were a total gun ban, law enforcement does not overwhelmingly want to take your guns from you. Sure there are prolly a couple who would relish taking your arsenal, but most would knock on your door, announce that they are confiscating weapons and say..."You don't have any firearms in your house DO YOU?" The correct response of course is....No sir not me. They cannot search your house because that would violate another Amendment, the fourth one!
I also don't think a dictator will quietly sneak in while we are sleeping...I think we will ELECT him (or her). The socialist agendas on the table right now are staggering and one of 'em just might win! That being said, don't count on the military or police gunning down Ma and Pa Kettle. It just isn't going to happen.
The real use for guns and the best reason to keep the 2nd Amendment intact is the rising crime and piss poor economy. Throw a natural or manmade disaster in there where basic services like electricity or running water are a thing of the past and you will see gun owners have a major advantage over the bleeding hearts. The ability to protect oneself is a very important thing that we have forgotten in our civilized and bleached out lives of content and unending pleasures. The cornicopia is not a guarantee my friends...I am not being a doomsayer or think the world is coming to an end, but preparedness never wished they had done this or that...
I will probably get flamed for my views but in this instance I don't give a shit. Guns = Freedom and I will keep mine thank you very much!!!!
Wish you all the best...
I carry a gun for a living and have several types and calibers at my disposal every day. I have had guns pointed at me and shots zing and snap by me. The weapons I have encountered on the street were mostly stolen however many crimes committed by guns are legally bought. That being said, I still support the 2nd Amendment 110%. Someone said earlier that "when the cops come to get your guns" I can pretty much guarantee that it won't be like that. Even if there were a total gun ban, law enforcement does not overwhelmingly want to take your guns from you. Sure there are prolly a couple who would relish taking your arsenal, but most would knock on your door, announce that they are confiscating weapons and say..."You don't have any firearms in your house DO YOU?" The correct response of course is....No sir not me. They cannot search your house because that would violate another Amendment, the fourth one!
I also don't think a dictator will quietly sneak in while we are sleeping...I think we will ELECT him (or her). The socialist agendas on the table right now are staggering and one of 'em just might win! That being said, don't count on the military or police gunning down Ma and Pa Kettle. It just isn't going to happen.
The real use for guns and the best reason to keep the 2nd Amendment intact is the rising crime and piss poor economy. Throw a natural or manmade disaster in there where basic services like electricity or running water are a thing of the past and you will see gun owners have a major advantage over the bleeding hearts. The ability to protect oneself is a very important thing that we have forgotten in our civilized and bleached out lives of content and unending pleasures. The cornicopia is not a guarantee my friends...I am not being a doomsayer or think the world is coming to an end, but preparedness never wished they had done this or that...
I will probably get flamed for my views but in this instance I don't give a shit. Guns = Freedom and I will keep mine thank you very much!!!!
Wish you all the best...
Great post!
Nice and welcome...I have a question. You're obvious a cop or a peace officer of some kind.
What are your feelings about no-knock informant searches?
What are your feelings about no-knock informant searches?
They have a place...
Most informant are pretty shitty. People become informants for several reasons including revenge, monetary gain, the befriend a cop mentality, miscellaneous personal gain, etc.
The real benefit of no knocks are when it comes to officer safety. If there is credible information that there are people inside that are armed, have a history of violence against LE, or have made threats then the no knock is good.
Another reason is when there is a strong possibility that the evidence in the home could easily be destroyed within a short time period once they know the cops are coming.
Those are the benefits, there are probably some disadvantages but I am on the other side of the argument so I see it as an officer safety thing. I want me and my guys to go home at the end of the day.
What are your thoughts?
Most informant are pretty shitty. People become informants for several reasons including revenge, monetary gain, the befriend a cop mentality, miscellaneous personal gain, etc.
The real benefit of no knocks are when it comes to officer safety. If there is credible information that there are people inside that are armed, have a history of violence against LE, or have made threats then the no knock is good.
Another reason is when there is a strong possibility that the evidence in the home could easily be destroyed within a short time period once they know the cops are coming.
Those are the benefits, there are probably some disadvantages but I am on the other side of the argument so I see it as an officer safety thing. I want me and my guys to go home at the end of the day.
What are your thoughts?
I really do appreciate your Officer Safety opinion. Nothing makes me happier than an officer popping a bad guy. But I'm curious...how do you discriminate between the good rats(informants) and bad rats?
They're all good...and they're all bad.
Without informants alot of crimes go unsolved and alot of drugs and guns stay on the street. But they are a part of the environment because they have to live the life to have that kind of information. Most of the time they get used for their info and dropped like a bad habit when they dry up. Kind of a "what have you done for me lately" kinda relationship. Most of my informants are ones that I have arrested on different charges, often multiple times, and you get to know them. Where they hang out, what drugs they do, who they know, etc.
They are always violating probation, getting new charges, unemployed, hooked on some type of drug...but they have the info cops need and the ones who cave in and give up that info usually get something out of it, not much, but to them it sometimes means freedom, a meal, 20 bucks, a pack of cigs you took off a kid, whatever...
Without informants alot of crimes go unsolved and alot of drugs and guns stay on the street. But they are a part of the environment because they have to live the life to have that kind of information. Most of the time they get used for their info and dropped like a bad habit when they dry up. Kind of a "what have you done for me lately" kinda relationship. Most of my informants are ones that I have arrested on different charges, often multiple times, and you get to know them. Where they hang out, what drugs they do, who they know, etc.
They are always violating probation, getting new charges, unemployed, hooked on some type of drug...but they have the info cops need and the ones who cave in and give up that info usually get something out of it, not much, but to them it sometimes means freedom, a meal, 20 bucks, a pack of cigs you took off a kid, whatever...
That's interesting...very philosophical. Shows the mindset of it takes to be a cop. But I'm amazed at how you can take the good with the bad from the same (figurative) person and remain a true believer.
Believer in what?
I would like to respond but not sure what you mean....
Belief in the system, God, human nature?
That is why I am trading....you can only wade into a shit hole every day for years on end and not get sick of the smell...yeah it really is like that. To truly in real life watch someone kill themselves with drugs, to be in the same room with a sexual predator who just ass raped a beautiful little 10 year old girl and ruined her for the rest of her life, to tell a mom that her teenage son is dead because he hit a tree 3 blocks from the house...and she cannot see him because he has no head, just weird stuff that nobody wants to deal with is the normal business day. You truly get hardened to things and one's outlook on life and people changes dramatically...it's twisted.
I am not complaining, I chose my path and glad I did. I wouldn't change it for the world and I have a real sense of fulfillment from what I have done. But...there is more to life. My wife, children, health, money and of course father time. Time is the commodity that has no price tag. I feel I have given my time, my contribution to society. Now I want to trade, simple as that.
I am not playing a sympathy card, I don't need that. Someone blasted me a while back for it....he is on ignore. Just responding to your questions...
Regards
I would like to respond but not sure what you mean....
Belief in the system, God, human nature?
That is why I am trading....you can only wade into a shit hole every day for years on end and not get sick of the smell...yeah it really is like that. To truly in real life watch someone kill themselves with drugs, to be in the same room with a sexual predator who just ass raped a beautiful little 10 year old girl and ruined her for the rest of her life, to tell a mom that her teenage son is dead because he hit a tree 3 blocks from the house...and she cannot see him because he has no head, just weird stuff that nobody wants to deal with is the normal business day. You truly get hardened to things and one's outlook on life and people changes dramatically...it's twisted.
I am not complaining, I chose my path and glad I did. I wouldn't change it for the world and I have a real sense of fulfillment from what I have done. But...there is more to life. My wife, children, health, money and of course father time. Time is the commodity that has no price tag. I feel I have given my time, my contribution to society. Now I want to trade, simple as that.
I am not playing a sympathy card, I don't need that. Someone blasted me a while back for it....he is on ignore. Just responding to your questions...
Regards