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Quote from wyoflyer:

Why Shadowtraders? My experience with them has been excellent. They trade live daily, I have yet to see a losing trade with Barbra in the daily chat room. Melanie provides training twice weekly.
They have a weekly webinar where she trades live...always makes money.
They have a 4 day seminar that gives you info I have never seen or heard from other seminars. Also you can attend this 4 day forever after that and not have to pay again. Their customer support is unrivaled.
Been with them for 6 months now and have had 90% winning trades.
Not associated with them in anyway but would be curious.....who has had bad experiences with them or why are they on the list?
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it would be much easier for you just to take a few snapshots of your live trading screen and post them here for everyone to see.

otherwise, you just sound like another of those behind the scene bookies, sorry.

let me know when you are ready to show you rather than to explain it away to us as how good a trading setup is or is not, OK?

thx
 
Quote from wyoflyer:

Why Shadowtraders? My experience with them has been excellent. They trade live daily, I have yet to see a losing trade with Barbra in the daily chat room. Melanie provides training twice weekly.
They have a weekly webinar where she trades live...always makes money.
They have a 4 day seminar that gives you info I have never seen or heard from other seminars. Also you can attend this 4 day forever after that and not have to pay again. Their customer support is unrivaled.
Been with them for 6 months now and have had 90% winning trades.
Not associated with them in anyway but would be curious.....who has had bad experiences with them or why are they on the list?
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we believe you. but if you followed my posts here for the last decade you'd be retired by now and it was all given away gratis.
 
Just followed the "Shadowtraders" scam link. Amazing amount of "knowledge" gleaned from a webinar. Not wanting to sound like a poster boy for shadowtraders, but....where's the scam? I have traded for approx 10 years off and on using stocks and options. Taken quite a few courses in that time, some good, some not so good.
Not being familiar with futures, I decided to take the 4 day seminar. For $1600 you get a tremendous amount of home study material, probably 30 hrs. of videos, 4 nine hour days of instruction, 4 hrs weekly training sessions, 3 hr. chat room daily, & unlimited access to future seminars. Way, way more than I have gotten in other courses. Like I said, not wanting this to sound like a commercial for Shadowtraders, but I was not disappointed. If you are an experienced trader, you probably don't need a course like this, if you're like me and new to futures, I found it helpful.
If the $1600 bothers you, trade live with them on the last day....4 different rooms and 4 different types of traders. Follow their picks and more than pay for the course......I did.
 
Quote from wyoflyer:

Just followed the "Shadowtraders" scam link. Amazing amount of "knowledge" gleaned from a webinar. Not wanting to sound like a poster boy for shadowtraders, but....where's the scam? I have traded for approx 10 years off and on using stocks and options. Taken quite a few courses in that time, some good, some not so good.
Not being familiar with futures, I decided to take the 4 day seminar. For $1600 you get a tremendous amount of home study material, probably 30 hrs. of videos, 4 nine hour days of instruction, 4 hrs weekly training sessions, 3 hr. chat room daily, & unlimited access to future seminars. Way, way more than I have gotten in other courses. Like I said, not wanting this to sound like a commercial for Shadowtraders, but I was not disappointed. If you are an experienced trader, you probably don't need a course like this, if you're like me and new to futures, I found it helpful.
If the $1600 bothers you, trade live with them on the last day....4 different rooms and 4 different types of traders. Follow their picks and more than pay for the course......I did.
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there are so many tutorial instructors and entities out there that it is very difficult to determine who is who and who is or who is not profitable.

thanks for coming out and taking a stand for the tutorial establishment.

since you are willing to take a supportive stand for the company, would you take the next step to show us something that we can follow up and determine for ourselves.... whether or not that, that trade is tradeable and that, that trade is profitable according to our own diverse backgrounds and setups.

no, you absolutely do not have to do what i stated above, but if you did.... it would lend tremendous credence to your former trading school and instructors as well. you are under no pressure to do anything, OK?

it is just that over the years there have been so many fraudulent claims disappointing so many wannabe traders who lose thousands upon thousands because of those fallacious claims of--being able to teach others to trade profitably.... while most are not even be able to trade profitably for themselves....

just read across the spectrum within bmt here, at this very moment, there are several supposedly trading gurus who claim profitability, trying to entice wannabe traders to cough up several thousands of dollars to pay the the course and the training--while none of these profitable gurus is willing to trade with their own funds to prove to the students and other critics like myself and other even more successful traders on board here.... that they are for real and that their PROPRIETORIAL trading contraptions are really worth anything....

to surmize, just show us the money rather than empty talk.... and i can guarantee you, many will follow and sign up, if and when any of those proprietorial setups can show that it is consistently profitable....; is my 2 cents.

to date, i have yet to come across a trader, male or female, who is able to generate a six figure or more net personal income year in and year out....; is willingly giving up the enthroned excitement and freedom.... to become a trading instructor claiming proprietorial trading methodologies and setups and what not.... I AM NOT SAYING THAT THERE IS NO SUCH INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY ALIVE, but that i am just not fortunate enough to come across any.... to date, yet--speaking with sincere humility and utmost respect for all traders who already make unaccountable personal sacrifices for the benefits of numerous others.
 
Maybe, but don't really have the time or inclination to "prove" anything..All I know is that ST helped me. They use some crossing MAs MacD, and Sto's that are probably pretty generic, they also have some proprietary indicators, (they claim) like fractals and linear regressions that help with price movement forcasts. I am at 90% now for the last 3 wks. I did this by cutting WAY back on the # of trades, using their indicators, going for a small # of ticks, choosing only 2 instruments to trade, and practicing "ad nauseum". Just my experience.....and still fail to see the "scam" aspect.
 
Quote from wyoflyer:

Maybe, but don't really have the time or inclination to "prove" anything..All I know is that ST helped me. They use some crossing MAs MacD, and Sto's that are probably pretty generic, they also have some proprietary indicators, (they claim) like fractals and linear regressions that help with price movement forcasts. I am at 90% now for the last 3 wks. I did this by cutting WAY back on the # of trades, using their indicators, going for a small # of ticks, choosing only 2 instruments to trade, and practicing "ad nauseum". Just my experience.....and still fail to see the "scam" aspect.
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just show us your trades taken during this recent time, would you be able to?

again, verbiage concerning trading is just that....

hollow word and hot air (sorry)....

so far, wyoflyer, you have been just canting and recanting about its tradeability and profitability. alright, let's say, i believe you that each signal generated by whatever is indeed tradeable and profitable at the same time, ok?

now, can you show us your claim to the 90% profitability during the last three weeks as you claimed in your text?

show us something other than your xl formulation. what you could offer to show perhaps is ONE picture of the screen you traded from or traded with during the past 3 weeks?

and what did you trade, when did you place your order, such references would surely help other traders to understand your claim much more concretely, right?

now, are you ready to show us some of the aforementioned to substantiate you and your trading outfit claim of the 90% profitability, pls?

not that i am envious of your or your company claimed success story.... on the contrary, i am so happy for you and your company's trading setups and claims and what not--that you are successful at the 90%....

NOW WOULD YOU OR YOUR REFERENCED COMPANY BE KIND ENOUGH TO POST SOME SCREEN SHOTS OF YOUR TRADES for other traders who are not quite at the 90% level yet to enjoy and salivate over and also to celebrate with you at the same time, pls?

or are you and/or the referenced company going to come back with more verbiage as to why or why not such and such is not conducive to such and such.... if such is the general case, then, perhaps you et al ought not bother to waste your own time and resource.... K? with all due respect.

just so to remind you, there are many traders on board who can spot a scam and/or fraud from miles away, K? not saying you and the ref company are attempting to scam or defraud ok? succinctly, if you can only offer verbiage, then perhaps we ought not carry this any further to save traders time and agony.

but if you can offer other concrete linkage to profitability, then by all means.... show it.... we all are interested in making MORE money the legitimate way....K? :p :p :p
 
Quote from wyoflyer:

Why Shadowtraders? My experience with them has been excellent. They trade live daily, I have yet to see a losing trade with Barbra in the daily chat room. Melanie provides training twice weekly.
They have a weekly webinar where she trades live...always makes money.
They have a 4 day seminar that gives you info I have never seen or heard from other seminars. Also you can attend this 4 day forever after that and not have to pay again. Their customer support is unrivaled.
Been with them for 6 months now and have had 90% winning trades.
Not associated with them in anyway but would be curious.....who has had bad experiences with them or why are they on the list?
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Why do these super positive affirmations always come from people with only three or so previous posts. Anybody would think they were sock puppets for the vendor.

Yet to see a losing trade? Ok this is a good spoof - admit you had me - it can't be real.
 
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