A letter to Trent Lott
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I'm disappointed in you Bobcathy.
Please point out my pseudo liberal bull. How am I being deceptive? I think I'm fairly frank about my opinions and their roots.
My main argument with aphex was that to diminish the effects of slavery is uncalled for.
I hope you don't agree with that, so I'm trying to figure out what point you took exception with.
Does the idea of reparations make you mad? It shouldn't. We've paid back the interned japanese from ww2, we've paid the families of that ship our submarine collided with. Stuff like this happens all the time and doesn't bankrupt economies.
What solutions would you like me to offer, because I can give you my ideas on those as well.
I'm not nearly as ultra liberal as you'd think. But that doesn't mean that some ultra liberal arguments don't hold weight.
There is a glass ceiling in the corporate and political world for both women and other minorities. I see that as the main indicator as to the level of the problem. When the money and power positions are only really open to guys like me, I don't think that's an accurate representation of our society. As a middle aged white guy, what would I have to gain by hoping to open up these systems other than the feeling of doing the right thing?
We can make up for past errors, it's not that big of a stretch.
We could talk solutions anytime, in fact I welcome it.
(I enjoy reading your trading posts on ET.)
Give me a break. DXM has nothing to do with this conversation. Why don't you break open some and try it for yourself sometime. I experimented with some drugs in college -- who the hell hasn't?
You can't corner me into a box with your arguments. I am still standing by my original premise which is (for those of you -- namely you -- who can't read a simple sentence).
a) Slavery is wrong.
b) Not all slaves were treated poorly.
c) I should have nothing to pay back any black person due to slavery.
If you can't understand these three very simple premises, than you're just brain-dead.
I'm not exaggerating. Turn on any local black talk show and listen to the hypocrisy that is constantly being projected from the entire situation. I don't know where you live, but in the major urban area that I live, I get a chance to listen to "African-American" radio every morning that is filled with slanted and twisted stories about how whites are put into this huge group where everyone in that group is racist towards the black person. It's really horseshit and wearing thin.
Why don't you spell it out for me? I was the one that, just a few years ago, had a black teacher for my history class that concentrated the entire curriculum on African-American history and culture. This sort of blatant shit happens all the time. It isn't racism if a black teacher covers 99% of his/her history class about the black plight, but it sure is grounds for a suit if a white history teacher doesn't cover enough black history for his/her class.
What are they doing? Should I just drive by the local NAACP office and pay a weekly payment to cover reparations for things that I had no control over that occurred in the past? Do you see the stupidity of the whole situation? This is just pure bullshit, and if you can't see it, you're the moron (thanks for resorting to name-calling, btw -- I figure I'd just return the favor and sink to your level of idiocy).
Can you not see how slavery is related to capitalism?! Have you ever taken a history or economics course? Do you know how free labor affects profits? Slavery is a direct consequence of pure capitalism! If you can't see that, then I suggest you do some really fundamental analysis -- you don't even need to take a class. Just use common sense -- the two are directly related. I'm just suggesting that if you're going to go on a tirade about racism and slavery, that you take a good hard look at U.S. society as it exists today. If you can't see that "smudged over" slavery still exists, then ask me to give you some clear-cut examples that even you could understand.
My point is that if African-Americans are going to go on a rampage about slavery, that they should also acknowledge that their OWN RACE had something to do with it. It just wasn't the white man stopping by the shores of Africa to pick up a few slaves to use as free labor -- it was a little more complex than that. Furthermore, if they're going to point the finger at the white man, then they're just as guilty of what they accuse us of doing -- can't you see that?
Quote from aphexcoil:
[size=-2]"Why are you in this thread? Shouldn't you be busy refuting rs7's Vietnam stories?"[/size]
RS7 has quite capably shot himself in the foot (that metaphor most likely as close to combat as he will ever get) with his own admission that the story was false. Of course, the fact that someone has attempted to pass themselves off as a combat veteran doesn't bother you in the least.
[size=-2]"Again, you simply exist to roam around boards and feed off whatever is going at the moment to inject a little excitement into your otherwise obscure and pedantic world."[/size]
Really? A very strange accusation coming from you, someone with 1752+ posts in four months.
[size=-2]"As usual, you are quite the asshole. But that nothing is something far more than you're desolate mind will ever conjure up in an attempt to produce an actual thought that makes people stop to think."[/size]
"Nothing is something?" Still trying to turn the lead of of your ill educated mind into gold, Aphster? Perhaps you should go back to what you do best, selling Elvis paintings on black velvet at the local shopping strip, perpetrated by your vain attempt to convince the innocent passerby that it is real art. However, you convince no one here of of anything with your repetitively farcical, rambling and thick-witted dialogues.
[size=-2]"Why are you in this thread? Shouldn't you be busy refuting rs7's Vietnam stories?"[/size]
RS7 has quite capably shot himself in the foot (that metaphor most likely as close to combat as he will ever get) with his own admission that the story was false. Of course, the fact that someone has attempted to pass themselves off as a combat veteran doesn't bother you in the least.
[size=-2]"Again, you simply exist to roam around boards and feed off whatever is going at the moment to inject a little excitement into your otherwise obscure and pedantic world."[/size]
Really? A very strange accusation coming from you, someone with 1752+ posts in four months.
[size=-2]"As usual, you are quite the asshole. But that nothing is something far more than you're desolate mind will ever conjure up in an attempt to produce an actual thought that makes people stop to think."[/size]
"Nothing is something?" Still trying to turn the lead of of your ill educated mind into gold, Aphster? Perhaps you should go back to what you do best, selling Elvis paintings on black velvet at the local shopping strip, perpetrated by your vain attempt to convince the innocent passerby that it is real art. However, you convince no one here of of anything with your repetitively farcical, rambling and thick-witted dialogues.
Quote from mjw73:
I'm disappointed in you Bobcathy.
Please point out my pseudo liberal bull. How am I being deceptive? I think I'm fairly frank about my opinions and their roots.I do not think reparations are called for. Where is the money coming from? The US is spending it all on a damn war. People are homeless and starving right here in the town I live in.
People die because they can't afford medical insurance. Our medical expenses are 24k a year because the doctors have to have insurance against people who sue. That is more than most people make. I think that is far more important to fix.
Do you think all the money in the world should go to the people who have the lawyers to sue? I do not!
Pisses me off. Where do you think all this money is coming from?
Your pocket and mine. I can't afford to pay for all this liberal bullshit.
Ohh Nooo, iT'S Maxie.....He's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
Hey pal, I told you you could kiss my bullet wound (very near my ass) anytime. Tell us where you live. I will find a way to arrange for a personal encounter with you ANYWHERE!
Admission the story was false? Not quite my friend. A compilation, yes...but I was shot, and I will gladly prove it to you IN PERSON.
OR leave mention of my name out of your oh so valuable and insightful posts. It has gotten beyond being sickening. Let's get this settled. You need to just learn to shut the fuck up!!!