A chat with Pabst, et. al.

[hapaboy]

Quote from nononsense:

ya can as well try out Jack's stuff.

Please explain.

 

[spect8or]

Quote from Ricter:

This "just do it" argument is no good. Since Man has been leaving a written account he has lamented the difference between what he would do, and what he does do. It's not a "nowadays" only problem.

Anyway, so it's discipline that gives us willpower?

It's discipline that conditions you.

Essentially - this ought to resonate with you - you're creating a 'new environment' (a smoke-free one) to which you eventually adapt. You just have to maintain discipline (ie tolerate discomfort) until you do adapt to the new environment.

It's similar to how going to the gym is a huge drag for most people, until they've been going for sufficient time to see some results, at which point it becomes, at least in some ways, pleasurable.

Another example might be welfare dependants - you won't like this one, I'm sure - being taken off welfare, or having their level of 'benefits' (lord, what a term) reduced. After the intial wailing and moaning, they adapt to the new environment and life goes on.

That's not to say I believe environment rules all; that role is reserved for biology.

 

[ElCubano]

Quote from spect8or:


Essentially - this ought to resonate with you - you're creating a 'new environment' (a smoke-free one) to which you eventually adapt. You just have to maintain discipline (ie tolerate discomfort) until you do adapt to the new environment.

new environment ( smoke free ) .. 3 days of physical dependency which if conquered comes with a lifetime of psychological dependency...in other words adapting to the new environment will take you a lifetime of discipline..like they say.."once an addict always an addict"

 

[spect8or]

Quote from ElCubano:

new environment ( smoke free ) .. 3 days of physical dependency which if conquered comes with a lifetime of psychological dependency...in other words adapting to the new environment will take you a lifetime of discipline..like they say.."once an addict always an addict"

I'm not really sure I understood all that. Is it really that much trouble to type in complete sentences, Cubano?

Anyway, it's demonstrably false that a lifetime is not required, at least not for everybody. I've been cigarette-free for six years (almost to the day) now. Discipline isn't even part of the picture.