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Max span set-up for monday mar 19.

I notice that the low of the day was broken on a couple of occasions.

Why wasn’t a trade taken on the short side.

My low for the first 15 minutes was 12261. Just after 10:10 it traded as low as 12256.

It seems convenient that that trade wasn’t taken as it would have resulted in a 40 point stop.
 
I believe I watched the video on their site and I think they use 8-min
candles and a 8-min candle has to close below the 15-min opening range.
I don't see one closing below the 15-min range..

Than again, maybe they do it completely different...:p

Looks like it was a good "Gotcha" trade for Hubert Senters though...
 
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Max span set-up for monday mar 19.

I notice that the low of the day was broken on a couple of occasions.

Why wasn�t a trade taken on the short side.

My low for the first 15 minutes was 12261. Just after 10:10 it traded as low as 12256.

It seems convenient that that trade wasn�t taken as it would have resulted in a 40 point stop.
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You are clearly missing the complete rules of the MS setup. Maxspan is executed and called automatically, regardless of market activity, economic news, option expirations, etc. It's never called or called off based on convenience as you said.

I'm not sure if PT wants me posting the rules here so I will leave it up to them.

Why is it that whenever someone does not understand something they jump and start pointing fingers.... ? Innocent until proven guilty right ?
 
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Why is it that whenever someone does not understand something they jump and start pointing fingers.... ?
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Because it is very easy to do on the Internet. And fun also...:p
 
Boib,

Wasn't called short because the rules that govern the system did not call for it. They are not discretionary and do not change from day to day. It fired long and we took it.

version77--it may be fun but doesnt make anyone money

CajunSniper / Puretick.com Administrator-Trader
 
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You are clearly missing the complete rules of the MS setup. Maxspan is executed and called automatically, regardless of market activity, economic news, option expirations, etc. It's never called or called off based on convenience as you said.

I'm not sure if PT wants me posting the rules here so I will leave it up to them.

Why is it that whenever someone does not understand something they jump and start pointing fingers.... ? Innocent until proven guilty right ?
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Hackles down my friend I’m not pointing fingers.

If I recall at one point someone, probably Cajun, said that if you didn’t have access to an 8 minute chart you could use 3 minutes. Just don’t take the trade before 9:52.

I was following the price movement and a three minute bar closed below the opening range. To me it was a signal. Apparently not.

You are right I didn’t understand the rules. I was under the impression that as long as the price moved under the opening range after 9:52 you had a signal.

Just keeping track of how the system performs and was surprised to see a profit posted for Monday when I was expecting to see a loss.
 
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Hackles down my friend I�m not pointing fingers.

If I recall at one point someone, probably Cajun, said that if you didn�t have access to an 8 minute chart you could use 3 minutes. Just don�t take the trade before 9:52.

I was following the price movement and a three minute bar closed below the opening range. To me it was a signal. Apparently not.

You are right I didn�t understand the rules. I was under the impression that as long as the price moved under the opening range after 9:52 you had a signal.

Just keeping track of how the system performs and was surprised to see a profit posted for Monday when I was expecting to see a loss.
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B,

Understandable but the way you wrote it originally was a bit offensive and I don't think these guys need help getting more attacks in the "land of skepticism" aka ET forums, especially when they don't deserve it.

For what is worth, I do no trade the Maxspan setup. Why ? I have my personal reasons but the most important is because I can outperform it. I do use it as an indicator and it sure helps my trading.
 
I traded it today and got about 35 pts. I know I shouldn't pick and choose but there are days I just dont feel comfortable (opt exp etc)
 
Hope this doesn't shake things up re: MaxSpan.

What if it is signaled then gets to and touches the 10 point profit exit but only 17 contracts are printed. Then the market moves opposite the Max Span setup.

What does the backtest assume then? What does that Cajun guy report to the track record?

Sure he has his fill report that he emails me, but what if his broker is in collusion just to make it look good, hmmmm?

Just a couple of quick comments. I have seen Caj take every Max trade. His account has been growing with it. I do not trade it most of the time because I believe I can out trade it most of the time --- similar feelings to the other ET member who stated the same thing. It is a tool and a measure of temporary directional movement, that's all.

I do wish I had the discipline to follow anything like Max Span in the beginning of my trading career, when I lost consistently and kept changing methodologies constantly. I would gladly have taken a system that made me $1.00 per day.

Another comment about back testing. It has its place. For me it is just another tool, not a reason to celebrate or condemn.

If something looks reasonable in back test, what I do is take the signals with a small position. If I did not have Cajun as a guinea pig, and I truly wanted to judge Max Span in the real world what I would do is take every signal for 30 trading days with 3 contracts and see how the results compare with the back test.

The worst case scenario is that it loses every day for 30 days. That comes to $18,000. If $18,000 will make me kill myself then probably I should not be trading stock index futures on any system, any guru's calls, any charting technique, or any gut feeling.

As far as audited statements go, I even treat those with skepticism. I still remember Enron and World Com.


Alex L. Wasilewski
Co-Founder & Head Trader
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www.puretick.com
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