9-9-9

999 is said to be a very simple plan to understand. I agree, most muggings are. Next he'll be trying to sell making every highway in America a toll road, temporarily of course.
 
Moderator: Is there a danger with your 999 plan with these 3 taxes that some government down the road after "President Cain" is going to increase 3 forms of taxation on americans?

Cain: No. There's no danger of that. *CHANGES SUBJECT*

BS meter shoots through the roof. Then Romney jumps into the debate and we get to hear another aspiring central planner's BS.

Who does the mainstream media want to erase from the race? Ron Paul. That should clue you in on who to vote for.

Quote from chaosclarity:

Why say that 999 is a joke before the plan is actually studied and pondered? I believe many people look at it, say its a joke and dont give it further thought. Maybe the better question would be why you think its a joke...provide some in-depth analysis verus profane remarks. That would be a big help.

One thing I must say about Herman Cain, he sure knows how to speak...

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At least Cain has a plan just like Paul Ryan has a plan. Like I said, Im not certain of the veracity of anyone's plan, but we have to study these plans and come up with something new versus just keep going with the same old same old. The tax code is a mess.
 
Quote from FireWalker:

Taxes?

Title 26 tax code. Law frequently goes to the definitions:

TITLE 26 > Subtitle F > CHAPTER 79 > § 7701

(c) Includes and including
The terms “includes” and “including” when used in a definition contained in this title shall not be deemed to exclude other things otherwise within the meaning of the term defined.


Why is that defined as a legal term?

Why is the definition full of double negatives?

When you read the sentence it might sound like "includes" means "expansive", however remove the double negatives and you'll see that "includes" means "inclusive".


Also see the legal definitions for "employee", "employer", and "trade or business".
 
Quote from brokerboy:

"... Why don't you explain to me how you get more money out on a single mom making 25k a year when she lives in debt now?

Suspect there would be exemptions for lower incomes...

1. Non-prepared food

2. Maybe clothes purchased at discount stores

3. Incomes <$40K could submit receipts to get tax refunds?? Yes, the bookkeeping would be a burden.

What America really NEEDS for the good of us all is to become an economic powerhouse once again (and to SLASH government spending, of course). The ONLY way to accomplish that is to attract foreign companies to American shores to do their business and to build their products. Something like Cain's 9-9-9 has the potential for that. The alternative is that we continue down our current path and become a Communist-like economy which fails and bankrupts all but the ruling elite. Would you really choose the latter?
 
Quote from oldtime:



Keep in mind, this all goes back to my basic belief that only the rich should pay taxes. And I define the rich as those who are making more than the other half.


People will scramble to be in the lower 50%. They will leave that lower 50% status kicking and screaming... In comparison to working really hard, life is far, far more rewarding when one has enough money to be housed and fed and lots of free time to visit the library or play
 
Quote from Eight:

People will scramble to be in the lower 50%. They will leave that lower 50% status kicking and screaming... In comparison to working really hard, life is far, far more rewarding when one has enough money to be housed and fed and lots of free time to visit the library or play

We NEED to give people an incentive to "work hard and keep the majority of what they make"..

Our current policies are the antithesis of that.

:mad: :mad:

(BTW... In case I forgot to say it for a while... ODUMBO IS A SHIT! And by comparison, Bust was "just a turd".)
 
Let's look at a few comparisons:

Poor Family of 4 earning $30K

current tax code:they get $5630
refund because of various credits granted to low income family.

9-9-9 They will pay $4920 in income and federal sales taxes.

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Moderate family of 4 earing $65K:

Current code, they owe $4300.

9-9-9 they owe $10895 in income and sales taxes.
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Rich Guy, family of 4, making $250000

current code: he owes $45700, probably less as I assumed no deductions other than some modest mortgage, property tax, and some day care.

9-9-9 owes $41140

Seneca

9-9-9 calculator at:
http://www.nerds4cain.com/Blog/archives/723
 
Quote from Eight:

People will scramble to be in the lower 50%. They will leave that lower 50% status kicking and screaming... In comparison to working really hard, life is far, far more rewarding when one has enough money to be housed and fed and lots of free time to visit the library or play
then why don't you do it?
 
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