81 Research Studies Confirm Natural Immunity to COVID ‘Equal’ or ‘Superior’

[exlib]

Probably not. Therapeutics have vastly improved and infection now, though still very unpleasant to go through, is not nearly so deadly in the developed world as it was. However, treatment is far more expensive than prevention, and sociologically the best outcome is achieved by achieving as wide spread vaccination throughout the world as possible. That's because evolution of the virus puts us all at some small but finite risk, and so far as we know now, that evolution can only be stopped by denying the virus hosts.

That is a fair response.

If I thought we could deny the virus hosts I would be more inclined to agree with mandatory vaccination for adults.

But, unfortunately vaccination antibodies are only temporary and there will always be vulnerable high risks hosts for the virus. (given current technology)

I think mandatory exercise outdoors and diet restrictions for able bodied high risk would be far more effective in the long run.

Where is Bloomberg outlawing soda when you need him.

 

[Tsing Tao]

The idea is the unvaccinated are variant factories, and more likely to get and transmit the disease to others.

The narrative is that, I grant you. Narrative being the key word.

 

[piezoe]

Millions of people without co morbidities survived Covid.
The risk of death to them is also vanishingly small.
Look it up.

Your arguments can only be made logically on the basis of statistics. You have ignored the several outcomes other than death. and you have ignored the threat posed by evolution of the virus. Neither the statistics nor evolutionary considerations support your arguments.

 

[gwb-trading]

So someone vaccinated with the measles can catch it from someone who isn't? Or maybe someone vaccinated with Shingles can get it from someone not vaccinated?

Do you understand the basics of what a vaccinated breakthrough case is?

 

[gwb-trading]

The narrative is that, I grant you. Narrative being the key word.

The data, studies, and facts demonstrate clearly the unvaccinated are variant factories accounting for 99% or more of the Covid variants.

 

[piezoe]

But, unfortunately vaccination antibodies are only temporary

Don't forget that if we can get a sufficient fraction of the world's population vaccinated, the Virus itself will be temporary! The vaccines only have to be effective as long as the virus can find a sufficient number of hosts to survive.

 

[exlib]

I think you misunderstand evolutionary considerations if you think temporary vaccinations during a pandemic is a good thing for society overall.

But, I welcome a good debate.
I am in favor of vaccinations for the high risk, but not because of science but humanity.

Your arguments can only be made logically on the basis of statistics. You have ignored the several outcomes other than death. and you have ignored the threat posed by evolution of the virus. Neither the statistics nor evolutionary considerations support your arguments.

 

[Tsing Tao]

The data, studies, and facts demonstrate clearly the unvaccinated are variant factories accounting for 99% or more of the Covid variants.

The Narrative™ supports this. There is data on the other side, but of course it is suppressed in the name of sCIenCE.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Do you understand the basics of what a vaccinated breakthrough case is?

So yes or no on the Measles and Shingles?

Does your Measles shot protect you from unvaccinated measles patients? Can't answer it, can ya.

 

[gwb-trading]

The Narrative™ supports this. There is data on the other side, but of course it is suppressed in the name of sCIenCE.

There is an entire thread on this subject dedicated to bringing you the facts and data from reliable mainstream sources. Go read it.