8 Dead in Texas School Shooting

Thanks for posting this. Just proves what many of us have been saying...it's not just a gun control problem, it's a societal problem. Guns have been around for years. It wasn't until recently that we've seen these mass shootings.
The AR-15 has been around since the 60's and wasn't used in a mass shooting during it's 1st 40 years.

From NPR...
AR-15-style rifles were around for more than 40 years before one was used in a mass killing, at an apartment in Crandon, Wis., in 2007. The shooter killed six people and then took his own life.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/28/588861820/a-brief-history-of-the-ar-15

So, what's changed? Guns or people?

I don't disagree it's a societal program - a society that has no money for healthcare, a society where gun manufacturers run a lobby to increase fear and increase sale of weapons, a society that values children's education and nutrition less than it values religious fundamentalism is not on par with Switzerland.

A sick society with easy access to guns will always feed on itself, so enjoy the show because a lot more children are going to die while the NRA promotes more guns among a few owners and that's a very relevant point because..


“What is decisive is not so much the number of weapons as the number of people who have access to a weapon,” he said. “Some people have real arsenals, but what really matters is access to at least one weapon."

Switzerland, he points out, has fewer people with access to at least one weapon than the United States, for example.



All citizens have the fundamental right to possess guns under the law but may require a license to do so. For example, those looking to acquire a handgun need a permit valid for a maximum of nine months. However, no license is needed to possess firearms for hunting or sport.

All 26 cantons keep track of the guns held within their borders as well as the ammunition. A seller of a hunting rifle, for example, must report the sale and the name of the owner to cantonal authorities.

Ammunition and guns must be stored separately and securely.

Carrying a gun in public requires a license that is only issued if the applicant proves they are qualified. The applicant must demonstrate a need it to protect themselves against existing dangers and must also pass an exam on violent crime laws and proper gun handling before being allowed to carry.

A carrying license allows for the concealed carrying of a handgun. Unloaded weapons being transported to the shooting range or hunting field do not require such a carrying license.

Since Switzerland has a militia army, members of its military may keep their unloaded service weapons at home. However, the ammunition is strictly regulated by the army. A 2011 people’s initiative calling for an end to the practice of keeping army rifles at home failed at the ballot box, but the practice has become less common over the years.

Fully automatic guns are banned outside of military purposes, as are most semi-automatic guns that were once fully automatic.

The Swiss authorities may also ban the acquisition, possession, or trade of weapons to citizens of certain countries if there is a clear danger of them being misused by those individuals or if decisions by the international community and the Swiss foreign ministry require it. Currently, it is illegalexternal link for foreign nationals from Albania, Algeria, Sri Lanka, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia and Turkey to acquire, own or carry weapons and to shoot firearms in Switzerland.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/societ...g-switzerland-regulates-its-firearms/43573832

With all those technical differences would you still argue it's just a societal problem? Even with a better society there, they are much more professional with gun regulation something that the NRA prevents.
 
Now you braindead moron - he was REFERRED to the program, there is no evidence that he took part in it or underwent it's instructions. And there is nothing in the program that prevented that Trump supporter from being reported to the police or his guns being taken away.

So fuck off with your bullshit, go kill more children like the cult you belong to.
Bullshit. You and your ilk have blood on your hands because of your insane bleeding heart programs that you keep lying about.

“Mr. Cruz is a perfect example of someone just falling through the cracks that we create through bad policy,” Jeff Bell, a deputy sheriff and president of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputy Association, told The Washington Times.

The 19-year-old Cruz was transferred six times in three years, the Miami Herald reported, but never expelled, taken into custody or arrested. He opened fire Feb. 14 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, killing 14 students and three teachers.

“If I have a weapon or even ammunition on school grounds, and I have certain things in my past, I could be arrested for that, but Mr. Cruz just gets off scot-free,” said Officer Bell. “And that’s the thing. If he had gotten arrested just once for disorderly conduct or trespassing or something like that, that would have shown up on his criminal record, and could have sent up some red flags before he was ever allowed to buy a firearm.”

He said deputies working as school resource officers in Broward County had their hands tied after the school district overhauled its student conduct code in 2013 with its Collaborative Agreement on School Discipline.

The agreement, developed with partners including the NAACP, the Broward County sheriff and Broward state attorney, included a diversionary program for repeat offenders called PROMISE and listed 14 misdemeanors no longer subject to school-based arrest.

“They were basically paying us not to make arrests,” said Officer Bell.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/5/nikolas-cruz-avoided-police-scrutiny-help-obama-po/
 
Bullshit. You and your ilk have blood on your hands because of your insane bleeding heart programs that you keep lying about./

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That's the shooter who killed

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So fuck off with your condescending lies.

A Trump turd did that.



“Mr. Cruz is a perfect example of someone just falling through the cracks that we create through bad policy,” Jeff Bell, a deputy sheriff and president of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputy Association, told The Washington Times.

The 19-year-old Cruz was transferred six times in three years, the Miami Herald reported, but never expelled, taken into custody or arrested. He opened fire Feb. 14 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, killing 14 students and three teachers.

“If I have a weapon or even ammunition on school grounds, and I have certain things in my past, I could be arrested for that, but Mr. Cruz just gets off scot-free,” said Officer Bell. “And that’s the thing. If he had gotten arrested just once for disorderly conduct or trespassing or something like that, that would have shown up on his criminal record, and could have sent up some red flags before he was ever allowed to buy a firearm.”

He said deputies working as school resource officers in Broward County had their hands tied after the school district overhauled its student conduct code in 2013 with its Collaborative Agreement on School Discipline.

The agreement, developed with partners including the NAACP, the Broward County sheriff and Broward state attorney, included a diversionary program for repeat offenders called PROMISE and listed 14 misdemeanors no longer subject to school-based arrest.

“They were basically paying us not to make arrests,” said Officer Bell.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/5/nikolas-cruz-avoided-police-scrutiny-help-obama-po/

Blah blah blah, Moonie times fake news.

Where does it say he underwent the PROMISE program?

Fuck off with your lies you braindead cultist, go kill children like the rest of you ilk.
 
nikolascruzmakarov.jpg


That's the shooter who killed

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So fuck off with your condescending lies.

A Trump turd did that.





Blah blah blah, Moonie times fake news.

Where does it say he underwent the PROMISE program?

Fuck off with your lies you braindead cultist, go kill children like the rest of you ilk.

I accept your surrender.
 
Police sources told CBS News that the shooter is 17-year-old Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Police believe he is a student at Santa Fe High School. He allegedly began his shooting spree around 7:45 a.m., killing at least 10 people and wounding a dozen more — a majority of whom were students — on the school’s campus. Police said he was armed with an AR-15 style rifle, a pistol, a shotgun and pipe bombs.

White, American, AR-15, Non-Muslim

Time to bring up some obscure Obama era program to blame this on that he never took part in.
 
Unsecured schools brought to you by clueless libs.

I grew up in an era where our high school had a riflery team and an archery team. Students brought their guns and bows to school every day. Nearly all the administrators (many were ex-Marines) had guns in their cars. Many students had guns in their cars as well if they planned to a range after school or go hunting upstate after a Friday.

All of this in suburban Long Island not far from the the border of New York City (Queens).

We never had a school shooting. What has gone wrong in the modern era that this is a problem?
 
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