"Axe: If you choose to not believe, that is your choice and i RESPECT your choice......But if I or others choose to BELIEVE...that is my choice and you should respect MY choice and my beliefs......"
Agreed.
"if all you are going to do is a) demand pictures as your proof or "
People continue to take this out of context. When I was talking
about video evidence, I was referring to a very specific case.
Later, I made it clear that video evidence, is not sufficient, and
in fact, video/picture evidence is not even required in many cases.
EVIDENCE is more complicated than that.
It is inaccurate to claim that I require picture evidence for everything. I don't.
"b) say foul things and ridicule my beliefs....you should not be debating because its insulting and quite frankly, you are starting to sound like GG and Longshot....your better then that , you know that.....I expect silly answers and clown like attitudes form them, that is why nobody is paying attention to them, but from you we expect more.....the thing about the church bus? "
It's pure FRUSTRATION your seeing because the theists throw
out the same stuff over and over, and this is nothing more
than time wasting at this point.
The church bus thing, I hope it was obvious, was not meant
to be an argument of sorts, except in one way.
If you really believe in a benevolent god, then your positions
has many issues it needs to solve, like the church bus.
I understand that those examples upset theists, and they SHOULD.
They are gapping holes in SOME theists definition of a benevolent god.
"Classless.....7 people are dead...there is deep sorrow in many a household tonight and you are using it as a laughable debating point???? "
Far from the truth. It saddens me as well, deeply.
But it also points out the hypocrisy of the theists.
Accidents like that PISS ME OFF, because you will always hear
some theist making some remark about how god "saved the rest"
of them, or some NONSENSE like that.
They give him credit, even though he could have easily saved
everyone on the bus. It's down right insulting to all reasonable
people.
"I would love to continue discussing this very complex and deeply divided subject, but the one thing Ive noticed is how ANGRY the nonbelievers get...why? "
It's FRUSTRATION. Especially when someone like Doubter
fabricates a ton of crap, and tries to make it seem like I said it.
This really pisses me off.
" If you don't believe, that is your choice....and we can continue to have a friendly debate about it...this is the beauty of being a human with free will....but for you to become so angry and lash out in so many ways makes me wonder if you have other deep rooted religious issues...."
I have issues with theists with tactics like Doubters.
"I have not called anyone names or insulted them or told them their beliefs were stupid, yet it seems that every other post you and others are doing that ....why? I'll continue a cordial debate but i would ak for respect of my religious views the same way i would respect your non religious views. "
I think theistic beliefs are unfounded. Plain and simple.
You think evolutionary beliefs are unfounded. Plain and simple.
Your in the same boat as me.
peace
axeman
Agreed.
"if all you are going to do is a) demand pictures as your proof or "
People continue to take this out of context. When I was talking
about video evidence, I was referring to a very specific case.
Later, I made it clear that video evidence, is not sufficient, and
in fact, video/picture evidence is not even required in many cases.
EVIDENCE is more complicated than that.
It is inaccurate to claim that I require picture evidence for everything. I don't.
"b) say foul things and ridicule my beliefs....you should not be debating because its insulting and quite frankly, you are starting to sound like GG and Longshot....your better then that , you know that.....I expect silly answers and clown like attitudes form them, that is why nobody is paying attention to them, but from you we expect more.....the thing about the church bus? "
It's pure FRUSTRATION your seeing because the theists throw
out the same stuff over and over, and this is nothing more
than time wasting at this point.
The church bus thing, I hope it was obvious, was not meant
to be an argument of sorts, except in one way.
If you really believe in a benevolent god, then your positions
has many issues it needs to solve, like the church bus.
I understand that those examples upset theists, and they SHOULD.
They are gapping holes in SOME theists definition of a benevolent god.
"Classless.....7 people are dead...there is deep sorrow in many a household tonight and you are using it as a laughable debating point???? "
Far from the truth. It saddens me as well, deeply.
But it also points out the hypocrisy of the theists.
Accidents like that PISS ME OFF, because you will always hear
some theist making some remark about how god "saved the rest"
of them, or some NONSENSE like that.
They give him credit, even though he could have easily saved
everyone on the bus. It's down right insulting to all reasonable
people.
"I would love to continue discussing this very complex and deeply divided subject, but the one thing Ive noticed is how ANGRY the nonbelievers get...why? "
It's FRUSTRATION. Especially when someone like Doubter
fabricates a ton of crap, and tries to make it seem like I said it.
This really pisses me off.
" If you don't believe, that is your choice....and we can continue to have a friendly debate about it...this is the beauty of being a human with free will....but for you to become so angry and lash out in so many ways makes me wonder if you have other deep rooted religious issues...."
I have issues with theists with tactics like Doubters.
"I have not called anyone names or insulted them or told them their beliefs were stupid, yet it seems that every other post you and others are doing that ....why? I'll continue a cordial debate but i would ak for respect of my religious views the same way i would respect your non religious views. "
I think theistic beliefs are unfounded. Plain and simple.
You think evolutionary beliefs are unfounded. Plain and simple.
Your in the same boat as me.
peace
axeman
