$600 Million for a campaign, typical Democrat inefficient spending.

IMAO: Proof Obama Is a Muslim!

"I happened to be at an Obama campaign stop the other day, and Obama asked me, “Could you please tell me in what directions Mecca is?” I pointed it out for him, and then HE STARTED PRAYING TOWARDS IT. I would have thought it was an isolated incidence, but then HE DID IT FOUR MORE TIMES.

BTW, he’s actually very nice in person."

:) :) :)
 
Quote from Mercor:

Obama cites his huge bloated campaign as a credential to be president.

Of course nobody knows the extent of waste or inefficiency within the campaign. You just need to compare it to the McCain operation.
McCain has spent $100 million and has close to the same results of Obama who has spent $600 million.

Seems like it is McCain who should be getting credit for running a cost effective campaign. Fits with his theme of less spending..



If obama's skin was lighter colored, the point spread would not be 5 points.

It would be a blow out

70% Obama to 20% McCain.

Those 20 percentiles belonging to the "culture of hate" will always vote for the vagina party.


and of course. How can I miss yet another opportunity to point out what a lying imbecile you are.

Obama RAISED 600 million.

Not spent 600 million.

and much of it was donated in less than $50. i.e. the small guys are giving obama all this money.

As opposed to McCain. Most of his money is from large lobbyists.

Of course, logic and facts escape the average 20th percentile like you.

Logic and facts would only distort your world view. After all, in your little mind the earth is 6000 years old.
 
Quote from oktiri:

No,McCain had trouble raising money because most of his supporters are "Joe the plumber" types. Loud mouths with small bank accounts.
but now he's limited by public financing and the RNC can't raise shit.
Seriously, how much money do you raise from people who are late paying their taxes ?

If Barack were the "Black" candidate, he would not have raised much from this poor constituency. Tells you how many Jews, whites and asians, males & females are behind this guy.

One day you will wake up and it'll finally hit you that Bush with his unwavering support of free trade destroyed the manufacturing sector on which most blue collar whites relied for a decent income and a somewhat stable future.
He also made things worse by pressing for "market based" solutions for heath care while GM was crushed under the rising costs of its retirees health care costs.
GM can't compete not because its cars suck, it can't compete because it's at 2000 $ disadvantage per each car they make compared to Japanese manufacturers.

Bush destroyed middle class white america. and that's very sad to watch.
Thank you for your post oktiri, and thank you also arealpissedgoy.

Everything you have said here is both true and correct, and it also mirrors my personal expereince.

Thank you for showing there is some level of reasoning and intelligence still left on this board.

I appreciate it. :)
 
Quote from arealpissedgoy:

If obama's skin was lighter colored, the point spread would not be 5 points.

It would be a blow out

70% Obama to 20% McCain.
If Obama was white Hillary would be the Democrat candidate...
 
Instead of spewing ENDLESS bullshit, how about making a case. How is Bush trade policy vis a vis the automobile industry any different from prior administrations? What percentage of "Japanese" cars are actually manufactured in the United States? What was the impact of a lower dollar on domestic production? Why should taxpayers facilitate the nationalization of GM health and pension benefits?

Do you even know that Japan is selling the fewest number of cars at home in three and a half decades? Do you know that GM's sales abroad are the highest in it's history?

Here's one of my criteria for idiot discovery: An uninformed lemming is anyone who thinks recent U.S. political policies had an iota to do with the implosion of the economy. No matter if one is talking about the U.S., U.K., Europe, Japan, Brazil, China, India or Australia EVERYONE boomed and busted simultaneously. Some of these countries have fairly unregulated, conservative governments-others are socialist utopias-market wise, economy wise, the results have been the same.


As far as your insipid "analysis" of the election based on race/income etc., you're a clueless moron on that front as well.

2004 Exit Polls via CNN.

Bush : White Males: 62% , all Whites 58%, Blacks 11%

Kerry (a white guy): White Males 37%, all Whites 41%, Blacks 89%

By INCOME:

Bush: Under 15k 36%, 15-30k 42%, 50-75k 56%, over 200k? 63%

Kerry:Under 15k 63%, 15-30k 57%, 50-75k 43%, over 200k? 35%

Jewish vote? Bush 25%, Kerry 74%. From the Jerusalem Post: "Jews are big donors in political campaigns." He adds that this is especially true for Democrats, because half of all Democratic individual donations to political campaigns come from Jews.

Jews in the U.S. Senate: 13. How many are Republican? One and he'll probably lose to a Jew Democrat.

Jews in the House of Representatives? Thirty. How many of them are Republican? One!!!


Quote from oktiri:

No,McCain had trouble raising money because most of his supporters are "Joe the plumber" types. Loud mouths with small bank accounts.
but now he's limited by public financing and the RNC can't raise shit.
Seriously, how much money do you raise from people who are late paying their taxes ?

If Barack were the "Black" candidate, he would not have raised much from this poor constituency. Tells you how many Jews, whites and asians, males & females are behind this guy.

One day you will wake up and it'll finally hit you that Bush with his unwavering support of free trade destroyed the manufacturing sector on which most blue collar whites relied for a decent income and a somewhat stable future.
He also made things worse by pressing for "market based" solutions for heath care while GM was crushed under the rising costs of its retirees health care costs.
GM can't compete not because its cars suck, it can't compete because it's at 2000 $ disadvantage per each car they make compared to Japanese manufacturers.

Bush destroyed middle class white america. and that's very sad to watch.
 
Quote from Mercor:

Obama cites his huge bloated campaign as a credential to be president.

Of course nobody knows the extent of waste or inefficiency within the campaign. You just need to compare it to the McCain operation.
McCain has spent $100 million and has close to the same results of Obama who has spent $600 million.

Seems like it is McCain who should be getting credit for running a cost effective campaign. Fits with his theme of less spending..

This is something I definitely did not like about Obama - going back on his word to about financing his campaign.

In that, McCain stood by his word. In fact, I'm surprised it didn't come up more as a topic for him.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Instead of spewing ENDLESS bullshit, how about making a case. How is Bush trade policy vis a vis the automobile industry any different from prior administrations? What percentage of "Japanese" cars are actually manufactured in the United States? What was the impact of a lower dollar on domestic production? Why should taxpayers facilitate the nationalization of GM health and pension benefits?

Do you even know that Japan is selling the fewest number of cars at home in three and a half decades? Do you know that GM's sales abroad are the highest in it's history?

Here's one of my criteria for idiot discovery: An uninformed lemming is anyone who thinks recent U.S. political policies had an iota to do with the implosion of the economy. No matter if one is talking about the U.S., U.K., Europe, Japan, Brazil, China, India or Australia EVERYONE boomed and busted simultaneously. Some of these countries have fairly unregulated, conservative governments-others are socialist utopias-market wise, economy wise, the results have been the same.


As far as your insipid "analysis" of the election based on race/income etc., you're a clueless moron on that front as well.

2004 Exit Polls via CNN.

Bush : White Males: 62% , all Whites 58%, Blacks 11%

Kerry (a white guy): White Males 37%, all Whites 41%, Blacks 89%

By INCOME:

Bush: Under 15k 36%, 15-30k 42%, 50-75k 56%, over 200k? 63%

Kerry:Under 15k 63%, 15-30k 57%, 50-75k 43%, over 200k? 35%

Jewish vote? Bush 25%, Kerry 74%. From the Jerusalem Post: "Jews are big donors in political campaigns." He adds that this is especially true for Democrats, because half of all Democratic individual donations to political campaigns come from Jews.

Jews in the U.S. Senate: 13. How many are Republican? One and he'll probably lose to a Jew Democrat.

Jews in the House of Representatives? Thirty. How many of them are Republican? One!!!

You forget to say WHY Toyota is selling few cars. Americans are getting POORER.

You forget to say why GM is selling so much cars outside the US. The purchasing power of foreigners is pushing higher. You also forget to say tat GM is burning through 1 Billion $ per month..They are selling cars at loss just not to stop their plants from operating.

Go look at Toyota's balance sheet and that of GM and get your facts straight.
Kerkorian just dumped his Ford shares this morning. The Auto industry is fucked FOREVER.

The Crisis in Europe happened mainly because stupid European banks got greedy and bought into AMERICAN mortgage based securities.

The Japanese stock market fell because they export their shit mainly yo the US and are worried about the shape of the US consumer.

None of their banks failed.

You pull stuff out of your ass and try to convince me with it.

So who's main point has the consistency of Diarrhea ?
 
By INCOME:

Bush: Under 15k 36%, 15-30k 42%, 50-75k 56%, over 200k? 63%

Kerry:Under 15k 63%, 15-30k 57%, 50-75k 43%, over 200k? 35%


35 % of rich people in the middle of a BULL market voted for Kerry. When the illusion of laissez faire capitalism was still holding. that before so much wealth was destroyed
The rich who had their wealth invested mainly in the stock market LOST much much more through this bear market and depressed real estate.....way more than what a meager 3 % marginal tax increase would "save" them
I'll post the exit polls by income on Nov 5, and we'll see whether that changes in any way. :)
 
Quote from oktiri:

You forget to say why Toyota is selling few cars. Americans are getting POORER.


Read again fuckface. Sales in JAPAN are at three decade lows.
Yuo forgot to say why GM is selling so much cars outside the US. The purchasing power od foreigners is pushing higher.

So what? Are you arguing it's BAD that emerging nations are buying AMERICAN products? A sale is a sale. It was the WEAK dollar-a Bush initiative-that spurred U.S. manufacturing dominance in global vehicle markets.

You also forget to say tat GM is burning through 1 Billion $ per month..They are selling cars at loss just not to stop their plants from operating.
Go look at Toyota's balance sheet and that of GM and get your facts straight.
Kerkorian just dumped his Ford shares this morning. The Auto industry is fucked FOREVER.

Shares of Toyota are down 50% the past 2 years. Mazda -60%, BMW -60%. If you think global manufacturers are immune from under funded liabilities like those of GM then buy any of these stocks.

The Crisis in Europe happened mainly because stupid european banks got greedy and bought AMERICAN mortgage based securities.

Mainly? No, only to a degree. British and Irish RE has imploded hat in hand with America and while Euro-banks were certainly long toxic U.S. paper they were also big lenders in Spain and Eastern Europe where paper is also on it's ass. The woes of the U.K. banking system-as severe as our own-are virtually 100% related to U.K. holdings.[/b]

The Japanese stock market fell because they export their shit mainly yo the US and are worried about the shape of the US consumer. None of their banks failed.

None of their banks failed? Are you FUCKING NUTS!! Japan's banking crisis dominated global economic news for 15 years. http://www.atimes.com/japan-econ/DC30Dh02.html

You pull stuff out of your ass and try to convince me with it.



So who's main point has the consistency of Diarrhea ?
 
HAHAHAHA.

The dipshit is trying to convince me that GM is just as fine as BMW, Toyota. Who are you kidding ?
-- Shares down by X % means nothing. If you have some intellectual honesty Post Market Capitalization and ROI for each of these firms.

I'm done with you fucktard. you're delusional.

-- Of course it's horrible when it takes a super weak $ to boost exports. American products should be competitive without a crashing currency.

-- The Japanese financial crisis is 15 year old. don't try to mingle it with the current crisis.

You scramble facts ,dates and statistics to paint a picture that suit your ideological leanings.

Thank God the public is not as stupid as you.
On Nov 5, OUT.



EDIT :
Toyota Market CAP : 113 Billion $
GM Market CAP : 3.7 B


Toyota is only worth 30 Times more than GM
 
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