3 Fully Vaccinated People Dead. 246 People Infected Despite Being Vaccinated

[El OchoCinco]

So forcible I don’t know about. Like strapping you down and giving you a vaccine against your will is probably illegal. But fines and restrictions that’s completely legal.

I agree, they cannot force you. For example if you do not want to vax your kids for MMR and polio etc..then they simply cannot go to public or private school, you will have to home school them but they cannot mandate you get a vaccine so you still have that freedom. SO the government does not force vaccination, it just makes it a requirement/mandatory. Private schools follow suit because they are certified by the state.

Same with COVID.. they cannot force the vaccine on you, just put in restrictions if you choose not to get it or provide a valid medical exception.

 

[UsualName]

I agree, they cannot force you. For example if you do not want to vax your kids for MMR and polio etc..then they simply cannot go to public or private school, you will have to home school them but they cannot mandate you get a vaccine so you still have that freedom. SO the government does not force vaccination, it just makes it a requirement/mandatory. Private schools follow suit because they are certified by the state.

Same with COVID.. they cannot force the vaccine on you, just put in restrictions if you choose not to get it or provide a valid medical exception.

And it’s the right approach, IMO.

 

[jem]

Its like nine morons argues to prove his lack of thinking skills.

I have never understood how someone could just make shit up with no regard for facts or logic.

a. "Here in Ontario everything is open to some degree"
Response ... you are still in fricken lockdown and you want to argue how great you all are doing? Are you insane?
You are still in lockdown and the virus is ramping and your deaths are going up and many of you are vaccinated...Yeah... those lockdowns really kick covid's ass.

b. and if you wish to still compare yourself to Sweden... that whole country is averaging less than one per death day last time I checked... .

Ontario alone is over 6 per day and spiking...


why don't you look at stats before you manifest your ignorance and disregard for truth?

Data and facts are important.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...L~CAN~FRA~GRC~GBR~USA&Metric=Confirmed+deaths

Oh, quit posting absolute bs. Metro Toronto is a huge city and we have much better Covid numbers then all countries mentioned. You seem to think if you post a lie it'll somehow become true. Yes, we most certainly will hold up ourselves compared to Sweden.

You don't even seem to understand what a lockdown is or how variable restrictions work. I saw you squawking about your schools last year and our schools were all open at that time. You refused to acknowledge that reality. Here in Ontario everything is open to some degree now. Death rates in Toronto are very small now. NO, our deaths are NOT spiking. You need to understand how low numbers work. You've never understood data. Last I checked there were only 30 people hospitalized total in the core city of 3 million people.

Yes, we've seen you make these claims before about Covid in Canada with colourful claims and how well Sweden is doing. It's all bs. The data is very clear. You're highly irrational and I'm quite sure no one in your family is comfortable getting in a conversation with you about Covid. So you bring all that venom on here and spout a lot of shit. So what.

 

[piezoe]

At least 246 people in Michigan who were “fully vaccinated” against COVID-19 were later diagnosed with the virus, including 11 who were hospitalized and three who have died, according to the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.

What did they die of a heart attack at age 99?

Young man. Here is some friendly advice. Sign up for a basic statistics class at your local university.

 

[Nine_Ender]

I agree, they cannot force you. For example if you do not want to vax your kids for MMR and polio etc..then they simply cannot go to public or private school, you will have to home school them but they cannot mandate you get a vaccine so you still have that freedom. SO the government does not force vaccination, it just makes it a requirement/mandatory. Private schools follow suit because they are certified by the state.

Same with COVID.. they cannot force the vaccine on you, just put in restrictions if you choose not to get it or provide a valid medical exception.

All these Covid deniers who are arguing about their "freedoms" all the time are going to have far less freedom then the rest of us very soon unless they get vaccinated. Sweet irony really. Lots of irony these days as the deniers flop around generally unable to process what is going on. Yes, you were free to not wear a mask in Tampa Bay schools or just generally be a socially reckless person in a pandemic. No, we cannot guarantee your school will reman open or that you will be quarantined in short order as infections grow rapidly.

I simply can't believe what a mess the US is on this it's like social responsibility and community can't overcome all these selfish assholes who think they can do whatever they want in public.

 

[Nine_Ender]

It like nine morons argues to prove his lack of thinking skills.
I have never understood how some one could just make shit up with no check of facts or logic.

a. "Here in Ontario everything is open to some degree"
you are still in fricken lockdown and you want to argue ow great you all are doing? Are you insane? You are still in lockdown and the virus spiking and your deaths are going up and you are pretty vaccinated...

Yeah... good work.

b. and if you wish to still compare yourself to Sweden... that whole country is averaging less than one per death day last time I checked... .

Ontario alone is over 6 per day and spiking...


why don't you look at stats before you manifest your ignorance and disregard for truth?

Canada is doing well but starting to ramp up a bit... Sweden is doing a little better at the moment... but things could change...

Data and facts are important.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...L~CAN~FRA~GRC~GBR~USA&Metric=Confirmed+deaths

You are a complete joke. No, we are not in a lockdown. Go ahead tell me anything I can't do right now in Toronto since early July. Certainly nothing that I do in my regular life. No, deaths are not spiking. Only a complete fool would make such a claim but yes we understand you are clearly a complete fool.

Again, Canada and Ontario and Metro Toronto have all had far less death per million then Sweden, And no, you can't use Sweden's early issues with long term care homes to explain that because Ontario had the worst long term care issues on the planet early in the pandemic. Ouch that kind of kills your usual go to excuse.

Yes, data and facts are important. But you are too stupid to understand either. That liberal arts education of yours gives you no background in this area.

 

[Wallet]

I think Wallet is just saying that he will fight until his death if someone tries to vaccinate him. I think that's an honorable way to die.

This guy Brad Pitt wanted to vaccinate Hector.

Now you know who is going to vaccinate you.

wrbtrader

Lol, speaking of Achilles, I’ve strained my left one, slightly swollen.

I’ll pick my own hill, doubt the vaccine will be it, I’ve honestly thought about getting the J&J would make business travel easier in the future I believe, guessing the Marriott will require a pass before too long. Either that or I’m back to the RV for travel.

It’s the notion that the government can “force” it’s science on you and segregate you if you don’t comply..... sorry leaves a bad taste. Not going to get into the debate, both sides have their “professional experts” and “scientists”.

Leonidas says it best.

 

[jem]

a. the chart in my previous post... just above... shows your deaths spiking as the seven day average is sloping up... you are lying.

b. You are not in lockdown?
Your paper said otherwise a few weeks ago.
I have not been there recently to know for sure... but it seems you are lying your fear filled ass off.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-...e-things-still-need-to-happen-first-1.5527930

July 29th


Ontario hits first benchmark to leave Step 3 but three more things still need to happen first


TORONTO -- Ontario has hit the first benchmark to exit Step 3 and move toward a complete reopening, but there are already calls for a contingency plan to avoid a fourth lockdown in the fall.

....
On Thursday, the Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB) issued a letter urging the Ford government to "communicate its plan to lift all business capacity restrictions."

You are a complete joke. No, we are not in a lockdown. Go ahead tell me anything I can't do right now in Toronto since early July. No, deaths are not spiking. Only a complete fool would make such a claim but yes we understand you are clearly a complete fool.

Again, Canada and Ontario and Metro Toronto have all had far less death per million then Sweden, And no, you can't use Sweden's early issues with long term care homes to explain that because Ontario had the worst long term care issues on the planet early in the pandemic. Ouch that kind of kills your usual go to excuse.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Only a moron would pitch that the number of Covid deaths in Ontario right now is "spiking". And only a moron considers every stage of layered restrictions a "lockdown". And now you claim I'm lying again. Par for the course you're a lunatic.

Again, there is no point to the shit you post on this site.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Lol, speaking of Achilles, I’ve strained my left one, slightly swollen.

I’ll pick my own hill, doubt the vaccine will be it, I’ve honestly thought about getting the J&J would make business travel easier in the future I believe, guessing the Marriott will require a pass before too long. Either that or I’m back to the RV for travel.

It’s the notion that the government can “force” it’s science on you and segregate you if you don’t comply..... sorry leaves a bad taste. Not going to get into the debate, both sides have their “professional experts” and “scientists”.

Leonidas says it best.

If you are living isolated on some ranch and never going out then you shouldnt really be worried about the vaccine anyway... you are basically self quarrantined without intending to be. If you go into town, I doubt they are requiring masks so you are not really being forced into anything based on your living situation.