3 Fully Vaccinated People Dead. 246 People Infected Despite Being Vaccinated

[Wallet]

A little different than this debate...

The U.S. government has used "mandatory vaccination" against your will although people today it as "forced vaccination"....regardless, it's the same.

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In 1832, Congress passed legislation — the Indian Vaccination Act — that allowed the federal government to use about $17,000 to hire doctors to vaccinate Native Americans who were living near White frontier settlements. Many White settlers feared that Indians would spread the disease to them.

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My grand father once told me that his father (my great grandfather) refused vaccination because the people thought the government was trying to kill them off via the vaccine to take their land after the government had failed to kill them off via intentionally bringing smallpox into the Native community that the Native Americans had no immunity.

People from the U.S. government that were hired to support the vaccination effort via the Indian Vaccination Act...pointed a gun at his wife and three kids until my great grandfather comply (he got vaccinated).

Fast forward, in Native American Boarding Schools...children were forced into vaccinations.

wrbtrader

Do you feel the Government was justified using force against your Grandparents

 

[Wallet]

So forcing kids to get polio vaccines was as horrible as the Trail of Tears...

Con logic...

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller

 

[fan27]

There is also the strong possibility that your story is totally false.

 

[wrbtrader]

Do you feel the Government was justified using force against your Grandparents

No, and it is what started the history of military service by our family. They didn't want that to happen again because my ancestors thought that soldiers were treated differently...with more respect.

wrbtrader

 

[Wallet]

While I doubt the government will forcibly jab the COVID vaccine into people -- they will instead rely on mandates and incentives --- the statement you made was "The government cannot “force” you against your will to take a vaccine"

Well yes, the government CAN force you against your will to take a vaccine. This was firmly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1905 and the ruling is still in effect today.

So the government can force you to take a vaccine -- it is just unlikely that the government will do this in our current era.

NO, no they cannot. They may take my life, they can, by force subdue me, but they cannot force me to do something against my will.

 

[El OchoCinco]

NO, no they cannot. They may take my life, they can, by force subdue me, but they cannot force me to do something against my will.

The Supreme Court said they can force a vaccine..

no one believes they will force a COVID vaccine but simply use restrictions on those non vaxxed.

But to sit in your isolated house and cry the government cannot force a vaccine flies in the face of actual legal precedent and facts that kids are vaccinated annually to be able to go to school as were you.

 

[jem]

you had multiple waves... and multiple lockdowns before delta... showing your lockdowns failed.


you lockdowns failed... particularly in Ontario... they had to lockdown within about 2 to 3 months of each other.
see the link below...


your country is over 2000 times larger than sweden's... so holding yourself up vs them... can't be serious... your population is not 2000 times larger.

and currently your deaths from covid are spiking significantly as we speak... again...
while Sweden is at about zero deaths per day. (which could change)


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Dummy, lockdowns/restrictions NEVER failed Canada. We are barely above 700 deaths per million when your blessed Sweden is more then double that and most of the US almost triple that. And the economy here is not struggling at all. And as I told you last year, we actually kept our schools open longer then most US states did.

The data is very clear, yet you post nonsense suggesting you looked at the data and it supports your beliefs. No, it doesn't, dumb ass. The numbers show quite the opposite. Show me any data that shows that Ontario suffered in any way more then any US state due to Covid, and that Toronto suffered as much as any large US city. You can't, but go ahead try. And no, eating indoors at a restaurant isn't a priority for us. It might be to some selfish prick like you but we prioritized keeping people well and alive and keeping kids in school.

God your fucking stupid or demented. Probably the latter you never learn a thing from your mistakes.

 

[UsualName]

Commission of crimes? Forcible Mandatory Vaccination is allowed by law. As upheld in the 1905 Supreme Court decision.

So forcible I don’t know about. Like strapping you down and giving you a vaccine against your will is probably illegal. But fines and restrictions that’s completely legal.

 

[Nine_Ender]

you had multiple waves... and multiple lockdowns before delta... showing your lockdowns failed.


you lockdowns failed... particularly in Ontario... they had to lockdown within about 2 to 3 months of each other.
see the link below...


your country is over 2000 times larger than sweden's... so holding yourself up vs them... can't be serious... your population is not 2000 times larger.

and currently your deaths from covid are spiking significantly as we speak... again...
while Sweden is at about zero deaths per day. (which could change)


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Oh, quit posting absolute bs. Metro Toronto is a huge city and we have much better Covid numbers then all countries mentioned. You seem to think if you post a lie it'll somehow become true. Yes, we most certainly will hold up ourselves compared to Sweden.

You don't even seem to understand what a lockdown is or how variable restrictions work. I saw you squawking about your schools last year and our schools were all open at that time. You refused to acknowledge that reality. Here in Ontario everything is open to some degree now. Death rates in Toronto are very small now. NO, our deaths are NOT spiking. You need to understand how low numbers work. You've never understood data. Last I checked there were only 30 people hospitalized total in the core city of 3 million people.

Yes, we've seen you make these claims before about Covid in Canada with colourful claims and how well Sweden is doing. It's all bs. The data is very clear. You're highly irrational and I'm quite sure no one in your family is comfortable getting in a conversation with you about Covid. So you bring all that venom on here and spout a lot of shit. So what.

 

[wrbtrader]

The Supreme Court said they can force a vaccine..

no one believes they will force a COVID vaccine but simply use restrictions on those non vaxxed.

But to sit in your isolated house and cry the government cannot force a vaccine flies in the face of actual legal precedent and facts that kids are vaccinated annually to be able to go to school as were you.

I think Wallet is just saying that he will fight until his death if someone tries to vaccinate him. I think that's an honorable way to die.

This guy Brad Pitt wanted to vaccinate Hector.

Now you know who is going to vaccinate you.

wrbtrader