2024 Election is Over----Dems just don't realize it yet.

[TreeFrogTrader]

Ok, I can't find fault in any of this. So, if I understand you, a theory of yours is they move for a last minute replacement?

They are making this up as they go along. As I said, I think there are plans and schemes going on but there is no unified mastermind working a plan. There are factions. One is Camp Obama, another is Camp Jill, another is the swamp that wants to hold on to their jobs and needs to have Joe there, another is Camp Newsom, then Camp Kamala. etc, etc.

This whole Joe thing rises and falls in waves. Joe goes in the toilet. Then he allegedly is resurrected by the State of the Union. Then Joes into the toilet and they put together the grand scheme "to just get Joe out there more" so they sent him around the country a bit. Then he is back in the toilet because that has not worked. Now the last wave is forming which is to put him out there for the debate. There is no resurrection after that. Even the dems know that, especially since they already have a bad, bad feeling in their gut.

So the little Elliot Wave scenario needs one more month to play out. One major thing to watch out for is whether they outright cancel the Dem Convention- as is being discussed in some circles and will probably happen. If it gets cancelled, that means all the DNC business starts taking place outside the convention with some simplified process. Read that to mean that all the planning and scheming will be concentrated out of sight and amongst a select few influences. Fertile ground for all sorts of shady outcomes.

There are plenty of plans floating about to try to move Kamala out too. Joe will be hard to move out. Kamala less so although that will be hard too. But people need to remain aware that the Prez and VP are voted upon and confirmed separately at the Convention (or alternate type convention). They are confirmed as a package deal. And if they orchestrate it right, it comes out without Kamala being confirmed, which gets Joe off the hook for dumping her. It would still be a disaster with blacks to do so, though. What a mess. But if the ones that want to move Joe out can't make it happen, they will want Kamala as the consolation prize. Newsom might like that plan too.

 

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They are making this up as they go along. As I said, I think there are plans and schemes going on but there is no unified mastermind working a plan. There are factions. One is Camp Obama, another is Camp Jill, another is the swamp that wants to hold on to their jobs and needs to have Joe there, another is Camp Newsom, then Camp Kamala. etc, etc.

This whole Joe thing rises and falls in waves. Joe goes in the toilet. Then he allegedly is resurrected by the State of the Union. Then Joes into the toilet and they put together the grand scheme "to just get Joe out there more" so they sent him around the country a bit. Then he is back in the toilet because that has not worked. Now the last wave is forming which is to put him out there for the debate. There is no resurrection after that. Even the dems know that, especially since they already have a bad, bad feeling in their gut.

So the little Elliot Wave scenario needs one more month to play out. One major thing to watch out for is whether they outright cancel the Dem Convention- as is being discussed in some circles and will probably happen. If it gets cancelled, that means all the DNC business starts taking place outside the convention with some simplified process. Read that to mean that all the planning and scheming will be concentrated out of sight and amongst a select few influences. Fertile ground for all sorts of shady outcomes.

There are plenty of plans floating about to try to move Kamala out too. Joe will be hard to move out. Kamala less so although that will be hard too. But people need to remain aware that the Prez and VP are voted upon and confirmed separately at the Convention (or alternate type convention). They are confirmed as a package deal. And if they orchestrate it right, it comes out without Kamala being confirmed, which gets Joe off the hook for dumping her. It would still be a disaster with blacks to do so, though. What a mess. But if the ones that want to move Joe out can't make it happen, they will want Kamala as the consolation prize. Newsom might like that plan too.

Just thought of it now. Democrats will run Joe Biden and have the VP as the real person in power. Do not know who that is yet. It makes sense. They could put Gavin Newsom as the VP or maybe even, Michelle Obama. Of course, they will have the massive election cheating if they can get away with it, with the connivance of the no good RINOs like the last time. Then, they can always remove Joe Biden, saying he is mentally unable to continue his job and the VP takes over. If the Democrats and RINOs succeed in cheating again, the US as a country is finished. We are not going to be able to recover from it!

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Just thought of it now. Democrats will run Joe Biden and have the VP as the real person in power. Do not know who that is yet. It makes sense. They could put Gavin Newsom as the VP or maybe even, Michelle Obama. Of course, they will have the massive election cheating if they can get away with it, with the connivance of the no good RINOs like the last time. Then, they can always remove Joe Biden, saying he is mentally unable to continue his job and the VP takes over. If the Democrats and RINOs succeed in cheating again, the US as a country is finished. We are not going to be able to recover from it!

Joe already be struggling with the black vote.

I would love to see what the South Carolina black vote looks like if Joe comes rolling into town without Kamala on the ticket because she has been replaced with Whitey-Tighty Metrosexual Gavin Newsom. Yeh, not what Jim Clyburn had in mind when he salvaged Biden's nomination in return for a promise for black VP who would be next in line after Joe.

Be fun to watch though. Lots of entertainment value there.

People/dems keep raising this Gavin Newsom thing as though that is the killer choice, and if he gets on the ticket the pubs might as well commit hari-kari. Nope. I will say the same thing I said about Kamala when- early on- she was declared the model candidate who checked all the boxes. What I kept saying was: "Show me someone east of Sacramento who actually supports her and is not just saying having a black female candidate is the winning formula." Consequently she dropped out/was driven out before Iowa. Same thing with Newsom. The country is wall to wall with people who can acknowledge that Newsom would be an ideal candidate for the dems, except they can't quite figure out how he would work out in their state.

Way back the succession plan for Joe was Andrew Cuomo. He had the experience, the gravitas, and likeability around the country and on the east coast. And then it all fell apart.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Uhhh...how much is the bet that he still somehow manages to "win" Ohio?

"Joe Biden on track to be barred from the Ohio ballot. Ohio law requires candidates to be submitted by August 7, but the DNC’s nominating convention is August 19th. The DNC will either need to move the convention or urge Ohio Legislature for a law change."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1793335427832893579

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Uhhh...how much is the bet that he still somehow manages to "win" Ohio?

"Joe Biden on track to be barred from the Ohio ballot. Ohio law requires candidates to be submitted by August 7, but the DNC’s nominating convention is August 19th. The DNC will either need to move the convention or urge Ohio Legislature for a law change."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1793335427832893579

I remember all the data that said that "half of all Haley voters in Ohio said they will vote for Biden." Heh, that remains to be seen at this point. Feel free though to write his name in.

If it is not fixed, it will hurt dems down ballot in Ohio bigly too. No coat-tail effect.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Haley announces that she will be voting for Trump.

Yeh well, that's not something you will hear Romney of Kasich saying so I guess it is important for her to point that out. And yes, people- including many here- will say this paves the way for her to be VP. I will believe it when I see it. I still say she failed the loyalty test to trump and trump is the decider not his campaign.

Then again, I have always said anything that I say is subject to an overarching belief that there will be Rumsfeldian twists and turns that will control outcomes. So there is that. My own beliefs are subject to those twists and turns.

Nikki Haley says she will vote for Donald Trump following their disputes during Republican primary

 

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Haley announces that she will be voting for Trump.

Yeh well, that's not something you will hear Romney of Kasich saying so I guess it is important for her to point that out. And yes, people- including many here- will say this paves the way for her to be VP. I will believe it when I see it. I still say she failed the loyalty test to trump and trump is the decider not his campaign.

Then again, I have always said anything that I say is subject to an overarching belief that there will be Rumsfeldian twists and turns that will control outcomes. So there is that. My own beliefs are subject to those twists and turns.

Nikki Haley says she will vote for Donald Trump following their disputes during Republican primary

Do not think she is the best choice. Also, she dragged the nominating contest and allowed the Democrats to use her. I would rather he pick Governor Kristi Noem or Congresswoman Elise Stepanik who has been loyal to President Donald Trump and defended him during the 2 impeachment attempts in Congress. Or How about Congressman Jim Jordan? We need people who will support President Donald Trump and his policies.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Haley announces that she will be voting for Trump.

Yeh well, that's not something you will hear Romney of Kasich saying so I guess it is important for her to point that out. And yes, people- including many here- will say this paves the way for her to be VP. I will believe it when I see it. I still say she failed the loyalty test to trump and trump is the decider not his campaign.

Then again, I have always said anything that I say is subject to an overarching belief that there will be Rumsfeldian twists and turns that will control outcomes. So there is that. My own beliefs are subject to those twists and turns.

Nikki Haley says she will vote for Donald Trump following their disputes during Republican primary

honestly, and this may be tin foil hat, but if I were Trump, I would be very cautious of putting Haley on the ticket as VP. The military industrial complex would then really consider what could happen if Trump "passed away".

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

honestly, and this may be tin foil hat, but if I were Trump, I would be very cautious of putting Haley on the ticket as VP. The military industrial complex would then really consider what could happen if Trump "passed away".

Yeh. I don't see it. Trump is MAGA and Haley is not. She is struggling just to be seen as republican.

Then, and I will keep it short because I addressed this with Usual Tard at length, she does not pass the loyalty test for Trump. Even today she is conducting herself as though she is the leader of some kind of non-Trump block that Trump needs to deal with. That dog hunts with the lefty media- but is fatal for being Trump VP.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Noem is the VP pick.