2012: The Battle for Survival

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Quote from illiquid:

Taxes are a bitch.

If I just counted gains - withdrawals for my trading between 1999 and 2005, I'd still be able to to claim a 1000+% return, that I was still "up" vs the market for that period. I never gave back more than 30% of my total peak gains, but after paying the govt, and spending what I thought I deserved to after "making it", I had 0 left to show for it by 2005.

Yes I was still "up" huge vs the house overall, but I was dirt broke by the end. This is what having a perceived edge, and then losing it, can result in. You can't hide behind past figures, ive been there before, you need to be honest about where your trading stands now. And be thankful u still have ur day job Neke, this is not going to be an easy hole to crawl out of.



Anyone can be lucky enough to find an edge, but few can figure out how to build real long lasting wealth. That's why you diversify when things are good. Buy non-correlated assests. Apartment blocks, rentals, gas stations, car washes, coin laundry, partnerships in franchise restaurants, oil wells, farm land and lease it out, Buy anything and everything that produces an income outside of trading. Buy with bank loans and in separate corporate entities.
 
Quote from badvestor:

Anyone can be lucky enough to find an edge, but few can figure out how to build real long lasting wealth. That's why you diversify when things are good. Buy non-correlated assests. Apartment blocks, rentals, gas stations, car washes, coin laundry, partnerships in franchise restaurants, oil wells, farm land and lease it out, Buy anything and everything that produces an income outside of trading. Buy with bank loans and in separate corporate entities.

A good one

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Quote from badvestor:

Anyone can be lucky enough to find an edge, but few can figure out how to build real long lasting wealth. That's why you diversify when things are good. Buy non-correlated assests. Apartment blocks, rentals, gas stations, car washes, coin laundry, partnerships in franchise restaurants, oil wells, farm land and lease it out, Buy anything and everything that produces an income outside of trading. Buy with bank loans and in separate corporate entities.

I agree, but the trick (a very big trick) is to make enough from trading to diversify.
 
Quote from badvestor:

Anyone can be lucky enough to find an edge, but few can figure out how to build real long lasting wealth. That's why you diversify when things are good. Buy non-correlated assests. Apartment blocks, rentals, gas stations, car washes, coin laundry, partnerships in franchise restaurants, oil wells, farm land and lease it out, Buy anything and everything that produces an income outside of trading. Buy with bank loans and in separate corporate entities.

euhm... Al the things you sume up as non correlated are all correlated except maybe(and that is a big maybe) farmland... If you look at the underlying drivers for the assets, you need a 'good' economy to do well in those assets.
 
Guys, this thread is about neke's trading and results, not about real estate. If you'd like to discuss the ins 'n outs of leveraging real estate, etc. then please start your own thread in the Economics Forum or Chit Chat. Thanks.
 
Quote from mastacoli71:

Not defending bowlinsky in any way cause i really don't care for his posts but regardless of what you have done in the past, it is exactly that, THE PAST.

You obviously knew what you were doing back then but are failing to recognize the market has changed and has killed your edge. It's happening to A LOT of traders, probably more then you can imagine.

Learn to adapt.

Looks like good days are over. You made most of your money before 2009. Market is different now.
 
Quote from freewilly:

Looks like good days are over. You made most of your money before 2009. Market is different now.

Actually I can't identify a time period in which traders didn't lament
" Market is different now".

Even during the dot com boom.
 
Weekly Update for week 20/50 ended 6/2/2012

Negative week, down 2K. gave back last week's moderate gain. Too much interference with my automation - closing out positions manually out of fear of losing. Not good for performance. There is some kind of vicious cycle when there is no buffer of gains to play with. Took out 4K for the month ended 5/31/2012.

For the four weeks 5/5/2012 - 6/2/2012, lost 10K against a target of +6K. Dismal performance no doubt capped by the loss on uncovered option two weeks ago. Sizing for the next four weeks (6/3/2012 - 7/1/2012) will be reduced by 33% - max option size now set at 2%. Target will be a measly 3K. The emphasis now is to turn a profitable month no matter how small. Need some steadying of the ship and some shot of confidence.


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Opening Balance:                	149,462
Net loss for the week 		         (2,042)
Cash Withdrawal				 (4,000)
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Net Balance:                   		143,420


Since Inception of Thread   01/18/2012 - 06/02/2012

Opening Balance:                   	203,729
Net loss 			        (33,309)(Down 16%)
Cash Withdrawal				(27,000)
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Net Balance				143,420

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Quote from neke:

Negative week, down 2K. gave back last week's moderate gain. Too much interference with my automation - closing out positions manually out of fear of losing. Not good for performance.

Here is what you said just two weeks ago:
"So finally I am putting a complete STOP on ALL DISCRETIONARY trading during the trading day.".

If you have a problem interfering with your automation, make it impossible to interfere. That's how I run it: there is no option to initiate or close the trades.
 
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