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20 Most miserable cities to live in, anyone see a pattern?
- Thread starter Max E.
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LOL. Another brilliant analysis. How many is that for you today? Four or more? Let me give that a try and see if I can't add to the conversation.Quote from futurecurrents:
+1
Quote from jem:
Workfare not Welfare for those who are able bodied.
Decrease taxes.
Cut spending.
cut pensions
cut govt
tax breaks for businesses who move back.
fire all the city commissioners and everyone else whose policies perpetuated the failed city.
+1
Quote from jem:
Workfare not Welfare for those who are able bodied.
Decrease taxes.
Cut spending.
cut pensions
cut govt
tax breaks for businesses who move back.
fire all the city commissioners and everyone else whose policies perpetuated the failed city.
Cut pensions? If you advocate backing out of contracts lets just tell China we're starting at zero again. Why would your first choice be to screw working Americans?
Quote from PiggyBank:
I'm not trying to come across as religious about it, I simply see it as better in every way. I think it is fair for an employer to cut an employee whenever they determine it necessary. An employee who has had a steady job for 25 years should have his expenses pretty well taken care of. That this individual would end up on welfare is not a given if he/she lives within their means.
Also, this is the purpose of unions. I have no problem with parts or an entire workforce banding together to make demands of their employer. I have a problem with unions lobbying lawmakers for fixed compensation, or to lock out competitors. And situations like the UAW demanding unionization of say, dealers at a casino. lol what the hell does the UAW have to do with that? IMO, unions should be formed by employees at the place of their employment ONLY. If a union was formed and they successfully demanded a pension for example, then this 25 year employee would be retiring with something.
One other thing, if there was no welfare, then the employee wouldn't be dumped on us. I know that's the way it is now.. but it wasn't always. And I do believe that the federal govt should not be involved. To clarify, they (feds) shouldn't be involved with any social program and instead of trying to fix these run away trains they built, I think their time would be better spent trying to figure a reasonable way out.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you had a religious attachment to free market capitalism.
All I am saying it is a worthy goal, but not the only goal. It is easy to talk about what people should have done after 25 years in the workforce, but we all know plenty of people will be irresposnible and others will have bad luck or misfortune. As a society, we are not going to just stand by and watch them starve or die from lack of medical attention.
Conservatives need to accept that not every general is a genius and not every CEO is someone to be revered. Business has its own agenda, and it is one that seems increasingly out of step with conservative values.
Quote from bigarrow:
Cut pensions? If you advocate backing out of contracts lets just tell China we're starting at zero again. Why would your first choice be to screw working Americans?
because their corruption of our public officials have screwed our kids out of a debt free future.
in my opinion because of the way those contracts were procured they were ultra vires... beyond ratification by the people.
chinas deals with the fed... are different... after all it is the feds money. but I am open to suggestions if they are are easier than balancing the budget and eliminating debt or bonds.
Quote from RCG Trader:
Tampon was talking about patterns. The pattern is loss of high wage manufacturing jobs in these areas. Especially in Ohio. Can't reduce profit margins, the companies leave to go exploit children in China.
The jobs lost in Ohio were primarily auto related jobs and local Mom & Pop restaurants, etc. that were nearby. Those jobs did not go to China to children.
I would give 'em the WWII test.
I would tell these losers that I was going to flip a coin in the air.
I would tell them to yell when they see or hear the coin hit the floor.
Then, when one of these lazy wise asses pretends that he could neither see nor hear, I'd draw back my left hand as though I was just about to slap the shit out of him.
When he flinches, he would know what time it is.
Time to get an alarm clock and a j-o-b.
Next!
I would tell these losers that I was going to flip a coin in the air.
I would tell them to yell when they see or hear the coin hit the floor.
Then, when one of these lazy wise asses pretends that he could neither see nor hear, I'd draw back my left hand as though I was just about to slap the shit out of him.
When he flinches, he would know what time it is.
Time to get an alarm clock and a j-o-b.
Next!
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
It is easy to talk about what people should have done after 25 years in the workforce, but we all know plenty of people will be irresposnible and others will have bad luck or misfortune. As a society, we are not going to just stand by and watch them starve or die from lack of medical attention.
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Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
As a society, we are not going to just stand by and watch them starve or die from lack of medical attention.
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Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
Why not?
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You say "Why not?" Because you are not appreciate or understand how your country is socially advanced and leader. Because your country should show gratitude to 25 years of labor.