2% stop loss rule?

The 2% rule talks about risk to account capital, there's nothing to say the distance from entry to stop cannot be volatility/range based.
but it does, limiting exposure to it it by the percentage of capital
 
but it does, limiting exposure to it it by the percentage of capital


Mate, look, the two approaches are not mutually exclusive but you speak as if they are. In fact they are complementary.

Surely we don't have to go over the definition of the 2% rule?

Especially when we both agree that the entry-stop distance should be derived by TA or volatility/range, NOT capital available to put at risk.
 
and when u said "It certainly wasn't aimed at day-traders."

imho it should not be aimed at anybody :)


I don't know about this and I'm not qualified to say, not being a day-trader, whether they should use it or not. However, reading what Alex Elder wrote its clear that he did not intend the rule to be used by day-traders.
 
I don't know about this and I'm not qualified to say, not being a day-trader, whether they should use it or not. However, reading what Alex Elder wrote its clear that he did not intend the rule to be used by day-traders.
if i substitute the 5 minute chart of qqq with 5 days chart one should not find the difference

which means that the distance form entry to stop (in the scale of the market) will be identical on both charts

which means the 2% rule would have similar effect and similarity should not be used
 
the two approaches are mutually exclusive


Please, don't keep making the same mistake in public. I think you may have misunderstood what we're discussing and you might think that the 2% rule means that you calculate what you can afford to lose (comprising 2% of your account) and then set a stop that is a random number of pips or points back from entry to fulfil that stipulation. This is not what Elder said but I'm guessing you don't have and haven't read his book, so you have been misled by others who haven't either. Am I right?
 
if i substitute the 5 minute chart of qqq with 5 days chart one should not find the difference

which means that the distance form entry to stop (in the scale of the market) will be identical on both charts

which means the 2% rule should having similar effect and similarity should not be used


Well I'm not going to argue on this, I don't day-trade, but I've no reason to think you're wrong.
 
Please, don't keep making the same mistake in public. I think you may have misunderstood what we're discussing and you might think that the 2% rule means that you calculate what you can afford to lose (comprising 2% of your account) and then set a stop that is a random number of pips or points back from entry to fulfil that stipulation. This is not what Elder said but I'm guessing you don't have and haven't read his book, so you have been misled by others who haven't either. Am I right?

i responded to the op question:

===I read 2% capital (account size) stop loss per trade is the "sweet spot" for most traders. Does anyone run it tighter or looser here? If so, what % capital stop loss do you use?====

where that 2% crap came from?

yoyu said form dr. elder

i have not read him but this rule is wrong

u understand now what i am talking about?
 
Bearing in mind it was suggested 2% of account capital risked per trade. His aim was a low enough number that even multiple consecutive losses would not drastically damage an account.
here u quoting dr. elder?

i am responding to that as well

this is wrong
 
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