2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :-)

Several of those floating terminals are already operational. But what do I know...

... And you conveniently ignored the NSA hacking of Germany's prime Minister, your alleged close ally as we, how did you so nicely put it, should stand firm together? If you truly believe that the US does not work very hard at dividing Europe and driving a wedge between European and Russian interest then you are totally naive.

Where was your outrage about crimes in Ukraine years ago? Truth is this entire theater in the Ukraine has been Pushed by CNN and US interest. Had the US not pushed this to a media spectacle then Europe would have never stopped importing Russia gas despite all that is happening in the Ukraine. Think who is trying to split up Europe. It's for sure not Russia.


https://www.reuters.com/business/en...lng-terminal-be-built-by-end-2022-2022-07-19/

John44 said:
I'm just a German, living in Germany. But what do I know about Germany.

I say this again: Germany does not have LNG terminals. Full stop. And there was NO GAS AT ALL WHATSOEVER going through Nord Stream 1+2. NONE. Full stop.

Now you can do anything you want with this information. Probably you want to discuss this with "alternative facts" to infinity, to distract from what the original point was: it doesn't make ANY sense for ANYONE else in the world to sabotage an already abandoned NS 1+2, other than Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
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M.W. said:
Several of those floating terminals are already operational. But what do I know...

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...lng-terminal-be-built-by-end-2022-2022-07-19/
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So what?

Again: THERE IS NO LNG TERMINAL IN GERMANY. There are some being build, but there are none operational.

So let me ask again, what would be the reason for US to blow up an already dead pipeline from Russia to Germany?

And no, selling gas to Germany isn't any reason at all, because there are no LNG terminals in Germany and Germany gets the gas from Norway, not Russia anymore.
 
Some floating terminals that turn lng to gas are already operational. Read the article and many other industry specific commentary as well. The only one here playing with semantics is you, yes there are no terminals built on land in Germany. So what. The purpose and utility is one and the same.

Sure I answer your question after you answer my question why an alleged close ally would put wire tabs on another sovereign country's leader's phone and spy on her? After all we should as allies trust each other and stand together right? And why would the US military leave all those Afghans behind that were loyal to the US and are by now most likely beheaded by the Taliban? How does the US define allies? What does it really mean to them when others risk their lives in support for the US?

John44 said:
So what?

Again: THERE IS NO LNG TERMINAL IN GERMANY. There are some being build, but there are none operational.

So let me ask again, what would be the reason for US to blow up an already dead pipeline from Russia to Germany?

And no, selling gas to Germany isn't any reason at all, because there are no LNG terminals in Germany and Germany gets the gas from Norway, not Russia anymore.
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M.W. said:
Some floating terminals that turn lng to gas are already operational. Read the article and many other industry specific commentary as well. The only one here playing with semantics is you, yes there are no terminals built on land in Germany. So what. The purpose and utility is one and the same.

Sure I answer your question after you answer my question why an alleged close ally would put wire tabs on another sovereign country's leader's phone and spy on her? After all we should as allies trust each other and stand together right? And why would the US military leave all those Afghans behind that were loyal to the US and are by now most likely beheaded by the Taliban? How does the US define allies? What does it really mean to them when others risk their lives in support for the US?
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This is from German state TV. Try Google translate:

"Deutschland hat noch keine eigenen LNG-Terminals in Betrieb."
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/lng-terminals-fluessigerdgas-nordseekueste-faq-100.html

The US spying on Merkel wasn't nice but not even a big thing in Germany, because everyone over here knows that the US is spying on our whole country. We don't really mind it much because we are allies and pretty much everyone is doing the same thing anyway. The US was just stupid enough for getting caught. There were actually a lot of people making fun of it, but not a big scandal.

Bombing our infrastructure in the center of Europe while we are facing a common enemy and a possible war WOULD be a whole different universe. If you don't see this, I can't really help you. So let me ask again, why would the US risk splitting the NATO and US/EU apart just to destroy an already dead Pipeline?

And why do you ignore that there is a pile of strong reasons why Russia would do it?

Shall we discuss if it may have been aliens from another planet next, to further distract from who actually did it?
 
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Most ridiculous post of the month. Really? Germans don't mind spying by allies? And that with German society having the deepest privacy fetish in the entire western world? My brother in-law who is German and works at Germany's largest energy supplier and millions other Germans beg to differ. I doubt you are actually German because the spying scandal was huge in Germany and caused an incredible diplomatic impasse.

Why Russia has very little motivation to sabotage the pipeline? Because Russia itself built it and its in Russian interest to sell its gas to Europe and make it energy dependent on itself. Also, friendship with Europe will drive Europe farther away from the need of Nato and all the Sabre rattling the US is doing to convince Europe it needs to re-arm itself. Germany made very clear that it has zero need to bolster its military and spend more of its GDP on defense. The US has an incredibly strong interest in chaos and hostility between Europe and Russia because that would motivate Europe to spend on defense and expand Nato. A strong United Europe makes it much harder for Us interests to assert influence on the continent. Enough reasons for you?

John44 said:
This is from German state TV. Try Google translate:

"Deutschland hat noch keine eigenen LNG-Terminals in Betrieb."
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/lng-terminals-fluessigerdgas-nordseekueste-faq-100.html

The US spying on Merkel wasn't nice but not even a big thing in Germany, because everyone over here knows that the US is spying on our whole country. We don't really mind it much because we are allies and pretty much everyone is doing the same thing anyway. The US was just stupid enough for getting caught. There were actually a lot of people making fun of it, but not a big scandal.

Bombing our infrastructure in the center of Europe while we are facing a common enemy and a possible war WOULD be a whole different universe. If you don't see this, I can't really help you. So let me ask again, why would the US risk splitting the NATO and US/EU apart just to destroy an already dead Pipeline?

And why do you ignore that there is a pile of strong reasons why Russia would do it?

Shall we discuss if it may have been aliens from another planet next, to further distract from who actually did it?
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John44 said:
This is from German state TV. Try Google translate:

"Deutschland hat noch keine eigenen LNG-Terminals in Betrieb."
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/lng-terminals-fluessigerdgas-nordseekueste-faq-100.html

The US spying on Merkel wasn't nice but not even a big thing in Germany, because everyone over here knows that the US is spying on our whole country. We don't really mind it much because we are allies and pretty much everyone is doing the same thing anyway. The US was just stupid enough for getting caught. There were actually a lot of people making fun of it, but not a big scandal.

Bombing our infrastructure in the center of Europe while we are facing a common enemy and a possible war WOULD be a whole different universe. If you don't see this, I can't really help you. So let me ask again, why would the US risk splitting the NATO and US/EU apart just to destroy an already dead Pipeline?

And why do you ignore that there is a pile of strong reasons why Russia would do it?

Shall we discuss if it may have been aliens from another planet next, to further distract from who actually did it?
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To the cult, facts don’t matter, only splatter with overwhelming bs. It would be humorous if it wasn’t so tragic.

Some can get out, others with some form of intervention, sadly - most don't.

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Europe is NONE of the US's concern, and that includes that no energy from the US will ever be needed in Europe.
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Only shows how much motive the US has to take out its larger competitor for European gas demand.
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Tell you what Tovarish, Russia can start pumping nat. gas to EU once they abandon every inch of Ukraine, denuclearize to our satisfaction, begin paying war reparations, and institute a legitimate democratic government (which means ousting Pooty putz). We'll even leave the infra intact for that day.

Deal?
 
So, again, what is that your damn business what Europe should demand or not? Its highly irritating how you guys all the time must inject yourself in others' business.

Cuddles said:
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Now:


Tell you what Tovarish, Russia can start pumping nat. gas to EU once they abandon every inch of Ukraine, denuclearize to our satisfaction, begin paying war reparations, and institute a legitimate democratic government (which means ousting Pooty putz). We'll even leave the infra intact for that day.

Deal?
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