16 years 9 months, crazy fast global warming

jem · Jun 28, 2014

its the science that matters not the sources. the data comes from your favorite providers such as noaa.
the math and the stats are accessible to all.
the charts show that the change in ocean temps lead the change in co2.
No one denies that.

However... once again we see fraudcurrents and the agw nutters... totally ignore the science and call names.

FC those graphs of real data destroy your postion.
it does not matter who points it out.
But your nutter chuck kutscher ... just denied that the sun warms the earth? That is an incredible denial of hundreds of papers, common sense and realty.
I can see why you quoted him.

futurecurrents · Jun 28, 2014

jem said:
its the science that matters not the sources. the data comes from your favorite providers such as noaa.
the math and the stats are accessible to all.
the charts show that the change in ocean temps lead the change in co2.
No one denies that.

However... once again we see fraudcurrents and the agw nutters... totally ignore the science and call names.

FC those graphs of real data destroy your postion.
it does not matter who points it out.
But your nutter chuck kutscher ... just denied that the sun warms the earth? That is an incredible denial of hundreds of papers, common sense and realty.
I can see why you quoted him.

Once again we see that jerm is a lying sack of shit.

He spreads the lies originating from Koch bros funded propaganda websites and fringe bloggers. Taking NOAA info and misrepresenting it is not seeking the truth. Try just posting NOAA web pages you fraudster.

But your nutter chuck kutscher ... just denied that the sun warms the earth?

Kutscher say nothing of the kind you lying sack of shit. He says solar changes are not responsible for the current warming. You are just being a right wing denialist liar again.

futurecurrents · Jun 28, 2014

And you know what else jerm?

IT WILL REQUIRE THE GOVERNMENT AND INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

OMG !!!!!!!

LOL

gwb-trading · Jun 28, 2014

futurecurrents said:
And you know what else jerm?

IT WILL REQUIRE THE GOVERNMENT AND INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM

OMG !!!!!!!

LOL

What problem? There is NO PROBLEM. It is fraudulent nonsense cooked up by people with a political agenda.

jem · Jun 28, 2014

this was the quote from your lying nutter buddy kutcher:
"Similarly, the fact that the sun is not the culprit has been proven in many peer-reviewed journal articles"

The peer reviewed journals have been saying the sun and the tides are causing some to virtually all the warming.
your buddy lied and then wrote "proven"... which compounds the lie.
nothing in agw nutter beliefs is proven. you have no science showing man made co2 causes warming.

futurecurrents said:
Once again we see that jerm is a lying sack of shit.

Kutscher say nothing of the kind you lying sack of shit. He says solar changes are not responsible for the current warming. You are just being a right wing denialist liar again.

jem · Jun 28, 2014

this is peer reviewed.
no one is denying co2 accumulation and dissipation lags change in ocean temps.
so therefore the ocean is most likely responsible for your supposed spike in co2.

jem said:
Instead of thinking a person is lying you might try reading the peer reviewed paper (by clicking on the link) which produced the chart.
here are the highlights...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658

Highlights
âº Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 11â12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature. âº Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5â10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature. âº Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature. âº Changes in ocean temperatures explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980. âº Changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

See: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2012.08.008

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jem · Jun 28, 2014

of course the spike in co2 is nothing on a historical scale. did humans make the co2 level go up in the thousands in the past.
I suppose fraudcurrents will have to call all the climate scientists who wrote the papers and the studies went into the graphs are funded by the koch brothers or something.

futurecurrents · Jun 28, 2014

jem said:
this was the quote from your lying nutter buddy kutcher:
"Similarly, the fact that the sun is not the culprit has been proven in many peer-reviewed journal articles"

The peer reviewed journals have been saying the sun and the tides are causing some to virtually all the warming.
your buddy lied and then wrote "proven"... which compounds the lie.
nothing in agw nutter beliefs is proven. you have no science showing man made co2 causes warming.

lie

futurecurrents · Jun 28, 2014

jem said:
this is peer reviewed.
no one is denying co2 accumulation and dissipation lags change in ocean temps.
so therefore the ocean is most likely responsible for your supposed spike in co2.

irrelevant

futurecurrents · Jun 28, 2014

jem said:
of course the spike in co2 is nothing on a historical scale. did humans make the co2 level go up in the thousands in the past.
I suppose fraudcurrents will have to call all the climate scientists who wrote the papers and the studies went into the graphs are funded by the koch brothers or something.

bullshit chart and irrelevant